Actually, we already have a related discussion:
http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Slim-binary-release-and-docker-image-for-Apache-Ignite-td45110.html

Ilya, would you mind restarting it highlighting that it's suggested to
release a slim package for Ignite 2.8.

-
Denis


On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 12:27 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote:

> Ilya,
>
> Thanks for driving this activity. It would be nice to shift this
> conversation to another thread, agree on the slim package structure and
> release it for 2.8. This discussion is not the most visible one for the
> topic you're raising.
>
> -
> Denis
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 10:49 AM Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> Unfortunately, ignite-zookeeper has a lot of dependencies (8M) which we do
>> not update often enough (such as guava, curator, jackson), and which may
>> form an attack surface.
>>
>> Not a pressing problem for 'integrated' ignite-zookeeper users, since they
>> can re-import these dependencies with more recent versions using maven or
>> gradle.
>> But for our users who rely on binary package for all JARs, outdated
>> dependencies may pose a problem.
>>
>> Therefore my opinion is to exclude this dependency and not put our faith
>> on
>> zookeeper dependency version.
>>
>> The same can be put for ignite-compress, and indeed, I'm not sure if we
>> should keep it.
>>
>> We can have an ad-hoc vote here.
>>
>> I would like to hear arguments for both inclusion and exclusion of
>> ignite-zookeeper and ignite-compress into slim package (in any
>> combination).
>>
>> I would also like to know if you want a formal vote on the issue.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>>
>>
>> чт, 5 мар. 2020 г. в 21:08, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>:
>>
>> > Ilya,
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you for preparing the slim package. Can we discuss and fix the
>> > list of modules which will be included to "slim" package in the
>> > appropriate thread [1]? From my understanding, we should include
>> > `ignite-zookeeper` to the package and update the TeamCity release
>> > suite also.
>> >
>> >
>> > I see no reasons to rush with it since, as you mentioned, it doesn't
>> > affect the release build and we can upload a bit later for 2.8.0 too.
>> >
>> >
>> > [1]
>> >
>> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Slim-binary-release-and-docker-image-for-Apache-Ignite-td45110.html
>> >
>> > On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 20:27, Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hello!
>> > >
>> > > libs:
>> > > core/shmem/jcache
>> > > ignite-indexing
>> > > ignite-spring
>> > >
>> > > libs/optional:
>> > > ignite-compress  ignite-kubernetes  ignite-log4j2
>> ignite-rest-http
>> > >  ignite-spring-data_2.2
>> > > ignite-jta       ignite-log4j       ignite-opencensus  ignite-slf4j
>> > >  ignite-urideploy
>> > >
>> > > I have kept examples, but removed benchmarks. sqlline still present,
>> of
>> > > course.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > --
>> > > Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > чт, 5 мар. 2020 г. в 20:19, Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>:
>> > >
>> > > > Hello, Ilya!
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks for putting your effort into this task.
>> > > >
>> > > > Can you, please, list modules that you include in the slim package?
>> > > >
>> > > > > 5 марта 2020 г., в 20:17, Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > > написал(а):
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hello!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I have prepared assemblies for Apache Ignite slim packaging:
>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/ignite/tree/ignite-slim
>> > > > >
>> > > > > It is based on ignite-2.8
>> > > > >
>> > > > > You can build it with mvn initialize -Prelease,lgpl
>> > > > > -Dignite.edition=apache-ignite-slim
>> > > > > after a normal release build.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Please consider the contents of resulting
>> > > > > target/bin/apache-ignite-slim-2.8.0-bin.zip
>> > > > > It will be a 65M download as opposed to main 455M
>> apache-ignite-2.8.0
>> > > > > distribution.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > My suggestion is that we can publish it as a post-release step
>> since
>> > it
>> > > > > does not affect the release in any way.
>> > > > > What do you think?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If we do, we should probably indicate size for every kind of
>> > artifact in
>> > > > > our download section, so our users can choose based on that
>> > information.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > NB: I have kept ignite-compress in this slim package. If removed,
>> > it's
>> > > > > extra 9M shaved.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > чт, 5 мар. 2020 г. в 13:26, Sergey-A Kosarev <
>> > sergey-a.kosa...@db.com>:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Classification: Public
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> There are no RC anymore, I believe. It's now just 2.8.0 (as in
>> Maven
>> > > > >> Central)
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thank you to all involved in the release guys, especially Maxim!
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Kind regards,
>> > > > >> Sergey Kosarev
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > > > >> From: Ivan Pavlukhin [mailto:vololo...@gmail.com]
>> > > > >> Sent: 05 March 2020 12:49
>> > > > >> To: dev <dev@ignite.apache.org>
>> > > > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Release Apache Ignite 2.8.0 RC1
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Wow. I impressed that users try out even RC.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Best regards,
>> > > > >> Ivan Pavlukhin
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> чт, 5 мар. 2020 г. в 12:01, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org>:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Ivan,
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> I think `final steps` is mostly related not to binary\sources
>> > itself
>> > > > >>> but for the announce message. All documentation must be
>> up-to-date
>> > > > >>> when it occurs.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> But I think you're right that users already using a new version
>> of
>> > > > >>> Apache Ignite without announcing. We've got some questions\bugs
>> on
>> > > > >>> user-list already [1] [2].
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> [1]
>> > > > >>>
>> > http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/Ignite-2-8-get-exceptio
>> > > > >>> n-while-use-batch-insert-in-streaming-mode-td31614.html
>> > > > >>> [2]
>> > > > >>>
>> > http://apache-ignite-users.70518.x6.nabble.com/Zookeeper-discovery-wit
>> > > > >>> h-Ignite-2-8-0-class-NoClassDefFound-td31615.html
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 11:51, Ivan Pavlukhin <
>> vololo...@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Maxim,
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> You did the great job! Many thanks for that!
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> I suppose there is some confusion with terminology. I
>> understand
>> > > > >>>> that Ignite release process has several final steps. And for
>> > example
>> > > > >>>> binaries can be published before documentation is ready and it
>> is
>> > ok
>> > > > >>>> (I suppose opposite will make no harm as well). My personal
>> > > > >>>> understanding is that a product version "is considered
>> released"
>> > > > >>>> once a user can receive and use it tagged with the target
>> version.
>> > > > >>>> In other words, once it is generally available (GA). And we
>> should
>> > > > >>>> not force users to check product web sites and other
>> announcement
>> > > > >>>> channels to check that a package available in the Maven
>> repository
>> > > > >>>> is valid. For someone it might be just "keeping all
>> dependencies
>> > up to
>> > > > >> date".
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Best regards,
>> > > > >>>> Ivan Pavlukhin
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> чт, 5 мар. 2020 г. в 09:33, Maxim Muzafarov <mmu...@apache.org
>> >:
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Ivan,
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> I did something wrong?
>> > > > >>>>> What should I do to release all effectively?
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 at 08:23, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> Ivan,
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> The release of binaries is one of the final steps. There are
>> > > > >>>>>> still several steps left before we can consider all the 2.8
>> > > > >> release activities completed:
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Proce
>> > > > >>>>>> ss#ReleaseProcess-6.3.4.Releasedocumentaiononreadme.io
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Proce
>> > > > >>>>>> ss#ReleaseProcess-6.4.Announcerelease
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> -
>> > > > >>>>>> Denis
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 7:57 PM Ivan Pavlukhin <
>> > vololo...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Denis, folks,
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> As it was already mentioned 2.8 is already in maven [1].
>> > > > >>>>>>> Consequently "effectively" released. In my opinion it is not
>> > > > >>>>>>> correct to consider release in progress.
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Agree that 2.8.1 sounds as a proper option here.
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> [1]
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.ignite/ignite-co
>> > > > >>>>>>> re/2.8.0
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Best regards,
>> > > > >>>>>>> Ivan Pavlukhin
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> ср, 4 мар. 2020 г. в 17:08, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org
>> >:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>> Dmitriy,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>> Ignite 2.8 will be announced as soon as the documentation
>> is
>> > > > >>>>>>>> prepared and released. Until then, the release is still
>> > > > >> considered under progress.
>> > > > >>>>>>> Here
>> > > > >>>>>>>> is a dedicated discussion for documentation activities. We
>> > > > >>>>>>>> should be
>> > > > >>>>>>> ready
>> > > > >>>>>>>> soon:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Ignite-2
>> > > > >>>>>>> -8-documentation-td46008.html
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>> Also, I've started a discussion related to our announcement
>> > > > >>>>>>>> steps. Please check it out and get involved:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Ignite-2
>> > > > >>>>>>> -8-announcement-plan-td46238.html
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>> -
>> > > > >>>>>>>> Denis
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 6:29 AM Dmitriy Pavlov
>> > > > >>>>>>>> <dpav...@apache.org>
>> > > > >>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Unfortunately
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/ignite/2.8.0/
>> > > > >>>>>>> is
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> already there, so release was happened. I'm not sure it is
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> a good idea
>> > > > >>>>>>> to
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> substitute binaries later.  Was it announced to announce@
>> ?
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> IMO, 2.8.1 is ok for that case.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Dmitriy Pavlov
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> ср, 4 мар. 2020 г. в 11:29, Nikolay Izhikov <
>> > > > >> nizhi...@apache.org>:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Pavel, ++1.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 4 марта 2020 г., в 11:20, Pavel Tupitsyn
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> <ptupit...@apache.org>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> написал(а):
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Igniters,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The release has already happened.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It is on our website [1], it is on Maven [2].
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> People are using it, so I don't think we can do
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> anything at this
>> > > > >>>>>>> point.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Bugs happen, we can't delay the release forever because
>> > > > >> of them.
>> > > > >>>>>>> Let's
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> fix
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> things in 2.8.1.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://ignite.apache.org/download.cgi
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.apache.ignite
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 10:06 AM Nikolay Izhikov <
>> > > > >>>>>>> nizhi...@apache.org>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Igniters.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have a person who can fix this issue in the
>> > > > >> nearest time?
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Right now IGNITE-12746 is Open and Unassigned.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 марта 2020 г., в 23:54, Denis Magda
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <dma...@apache.org>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> написал(а):
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for catching that and sharing. I wonder if
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> there are any
>> > > > >>>>>>> other
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> blockers that were pushed to 2.8.x version. If there
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> are a few
>> > > > >>>>>>> then
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> we
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> can
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> produce 2.8.1 shortly, otherwise, it sounds
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable to me to
>> > > > >>>>>>> fix
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> issue with putAll, update the binaries and finish the
>> > > > >> process.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Denis
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:34 PM Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have filed an issue
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-12746
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is potentially a game breaker and
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> makes me
>> > > > >>>>>>> recommend
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> avoiding
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.8, if we release it without fix (for now).
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are using any partitioned caches, anyway.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I suggest we withhold 2.8.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> вт, 3 мар. 2020 г. в 20:53, Maxim Muzafarov
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mmu...@apache.org
>> > > > >>>>>>>> :
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not want to force the release no matter what
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens, but
>> > > > >>>>>>> I
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> think
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we should release what we have to get feedback not
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just from
>> > > > >>>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer community but from our users too.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And fix all these issues in 2.8.1.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 20:33, Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we please hold back publishing AI-2.8.0-rc1
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as public
>> > > > >>>>>>> Apache
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ignite
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.8
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release?
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have just been notified that
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.Gr
>> > > > >>>>>>> idCacheColocatedDebugTest#testPutsMultithreadedColocated
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> org.apache.ignite.internal.processors.cache.distributed.dht.Gr
>> > > > >>>>>>> idCacheColocatedDebugTest#testPutsMultithreadedMixed
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are flaky: they seem to deadlock on putAll sorted
>> > > > >> keys maps.
>> > > > >>>>>>> They
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> used
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pass solidly on 2.7, but fail on master and
>> > > > >> ignite-2.8.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (They fail around 1 time out of 10, so just run
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them 25 times
>> > > > >>>>>>> to
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> check)
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is indeed a deadlock, this would become
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a blocker to
>> > > > >>>>>>> this
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my opinion, but I need some time to check.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вс, 1 мар. 2020 г. в 11:29, Maxim Muzafarov <
>> > > > >>>>>>> mmu...@apache.org>:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with you that the more members will
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check the
>> > > > >>>>>>> release the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better will be. That's why I've shared the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release candidate
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> links
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before starting a vote. The best time for
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starting a vote is
>> > > > >>>>>>> not
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned at our release wiki page [2] (should
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we?) and I've
>> > > > >>>>>>> also
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> failed with googling the best practices for it
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too. So, I've
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> supposed
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since all of us are working on their own tasks
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> during
>> > > > >>>>>>> weekdays
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free time on the weekend is the best choice for
>> > > > >>>>>>> cheking\voting on
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> release. Probably this decision was wrong.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Apache-I
>> > > > >>>>>>> gnite-2-8-RELEASE-Time-Scope-Manager-tp43616p46117.html
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Release+Pro
>> > > > >>>>>>> cess
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 00:37, Ivan Pavlukhin <
>> > > > >>>>>>> vololo...@gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also I have a comment regarding to voting.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voting for 72
>> > > > >>>>>>> hour
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spanning
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a weekend sounds a little bit odd to me. In a
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>> > > > >>>>>>> case
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people check the release the better. And I
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose there is
>> > > > >>>>>>> more
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for it on weekdays for the majority.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Pavlukhin
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> вс, 1 мар. 2020 г. в 00:33, Ivan Pavlukhin <
>> > > > >>>>>>> vololo...@gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> :
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I remember, that Pavlov suggested to
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss threats
>> > > > >>>>>>> on a
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PMC list
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cannot understand why it should be discussed
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a private
>> > > > >>>>>>> list.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the clue?
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ivan Pavlukhin
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г. в 16:00, Alexey Zinoviev
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zaleslaw....@gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I remember, that Pavlov suggested to
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discuss threats
>> > > > >>>>>>> on a
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> private
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PMC
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г., 15:12 Ilya Kasnacheev <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello!
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as my understanding goes,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignite-zookeeper is
>> > > > >>>>>>> listed
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removal
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it brings a lot of dependencies,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of which
>> > > > >>>>>>> may
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vulnerabilities, which will make the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution also
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> considered
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vulnerable by some scanners.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г. в 14:18, Alexey
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zinoviev <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zaleslaw....@gmail.com>:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, lets move to this thread. Also, the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slim release
>> > > > >>>>>>> could
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> form by
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voting on user-list
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> сб, 29 февр. 2020 г., 9:55 Alexey Goncharuk
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alexey.goncha...@gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nikolay, Alexey,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, the idea of the slim binary release
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and docker
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> image was
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openly on the dev-list [1]. Second, nobody
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talks about
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing these
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modules from the product. The idea was to
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> create an
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additional
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> distribution
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is much lighter than the current
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full package to
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduce
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the size
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the downloadable artifact and reduce the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number of
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potential
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vulnerabilities in third-party libraries.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The list of modules was chosen
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subjectively by the
>> > > > >>>>>>> number
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the user-list, number third-party
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries (size) and
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vulnerabilities
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> module brings. Given that there are still
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions, we
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to release it in 2.8.0.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's move discussion to the original
>> thread?
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> http://apache-ignite-developers.2346864.n4.nabble.com/Slim-bin
>> > > > >>>>>>> ary-release-and-docker-image-for-Apache-Ignite-td45110.html
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>
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