Denis, Folks,

It the link correct?
https://blogs.apache.org/ignite/entry/ignite-2-8-released-less

I can't get access to it. Can anyone else confirm that everything is OK?

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 at 23:52, Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I've published the blog post:
> https://blogs.apache.org/ignite/entry/ignite-2-8-released-less
>
> @Maxim Muzafarov, please proceed with an announcement email including a 
> reference to the blog for those who'd like to find out details.
>
> -
> Denis
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:17 AM Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >> Does it mean that the PME is skipped only for cases when the native
>> >> persistence is used and a failed node was in the baseline topology?
>> The cluster should be fully rebalanced (late affinity assignment happened)
>> and the failed node should be from the baseline topology.
>> Otherwise, you'll gain regular (PME based) switch.
>>
>> >> How about pure in-memory clusters and clusters with CacheStore?
>> Such configuration leads to partitions reassignment in case of node left.
>> This means we have to relocate primaries and backups once they will be
>> rebalanced.
>> This leads to subsequent LAA PME (after Left switch).
>> Initial PME is required to calculate and apply new affinity and perform
>> preparations for LAA.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 7:25 PM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Anton,
>> >
>> > Does it mean that the PME is skipped only for cases when the native
>> > persistence is used and a failed node was in the baseline topology? How
>> > about pure in-memory clusters and clusters with CacheStore?
>> >
>> > -
>> > Denis
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:40 AM Anton Vinogradov <a...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Denis,
>> > >
>> > > >> the blocking PME no longer happens if a node leaves the cluster
>> > > We should mention this should be the baseline node
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:40 AM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Pavel, thank you. I referred to your article from a blog post to be
>> > > > published on blogs.apache.org. Please feel free to share feedback
>> > before
>> > > > it's published. You can use the comment feature of Google Docs:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ssTC1Jf_reqZFWgl4ayhaohiAJCpzdL4tPrHTxvfvAM/edit?usp=sharing
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > @Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com> , @Andrey Gura
>> > > > <ag...@apache.org> , @Nikolay Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org>, @Anton
>> > > > Vinogradov <a...@apache.org>  could you glance at the paragraphs
>> > > mentioning
>> > > > the improvements you contributed to the release? I just want to be sure
>> > > my
>> > > > understanding is correct.
>> > > >
>> > > > -
>> > > > Denis
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 3:54 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Published: https://ptupitsyn.github.io/Whats-New-In-Ignite-Net-2.8/
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 1:49 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> > Denis, ok, I'll publish on Monday afternoon then (UTC), weekend is
>> > not
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> > best time.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Thanks,
>> > > >> > Pavel
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 1:25 AM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> >> Pavel,
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Thanks for clarifying the way partition-awareness handles topology
>> > > >> >> changes.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Please publish your article as soon as you're ready. I plan to
>> > finish
>> > > >> mine
>> > > >> >> on Monday-Tuesday and will refer to yours.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> -
>> > > >> >> Denis
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 1:36 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <
>> > ptupit...@apache.org>
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> > Denis, thanks for the feedback!
>> > > >> >> > When should I publish the post? Right after official release
>> > > >> >> announcement,
>> > > >> >> > or later?
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > > I would use "thick client" as a term instead of the "classic
>> > > >> client"
>> > > >> >> > Good point, fixed
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > > partition-awareness doesn't handle topology changes
>> > automatically
>> > > >> >> > (partition map won't be updated on the client-side)
>> > > >> >> > This is not true, we keep the partition map up to date by
>> > checking
>> > > >> >> > AffinityTopologyVersion [1]
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > > Now I can run Ignite.NET easily on my Mac OS machine
>> > > >> >> > Just to clarify, you can do that since 2.4 release [2].
>> > > >> >> > In 2.8 we have refined build-related things (jar file handling),
>> > > and
>> > > >> >> made
>> > > >> >> > sure that recent .NET versions are supported.
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > [1]
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-23%3A+Best+Effort+Affinity+for+thin+clients
>> > > >> >> > [2] https://habr.com/ru/company/gridgain/blog/347374/ (in
>> > Russian)
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 2:40 AM Denis Magda <dma...@apache.org>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >> > > Pavel, thanks,
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > I enjoyed reading the blog, crystal clear and straight to the
>> > > >> point!
>> > > >> >> > Please
>> > > >> >> > > consider these several items that might strengthen the article
>> > a
>> > > >> bit:
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > >    - I would use "thick client" as a term instead of the
>> > "classic
>> > > >> >> client"
>> > > >> >> > >    (and mention that Ignite.NET client is a thick one). The
>> > thick
>> > > >> >> client
>> > > >> >> > is
>> > > >> >> > >    already a coined term that based on my observations are
>> > used a
>> > > >> lot
>> > > >> >> by
>> > > >> >> > > dev
>> > > >> >> > >    and user communities. Also, you might add some differences
>> > of
>> > > >> thick
>> > > >> >> > vs.
>> > > >> >> > >    thin taking from this page -
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > https://www.gridgain.com/docs/latest/installation-guide/deployment-modes#thick-vs-thin-clients
>> > > >> >> > >    - Should we mention that presently partition-awareness
>> > doesn't
>> > > >> >> handle
>> > > >> >> > >    topology changes automatically (partition map won't be
>> > updated
>> > > >> on
>> > > >> >> the
>> > > >> >> > >    client-side)? This might be a blocker for some users.
>> > > >> >> > >    - Excited to read about the cross-platform support, that's
>> > > huge!
>> > > >> >> Now I
>> > > >> >> > >    can run Ignite.NET easily on my Mac OS machine. I would
>> > > insert a
>> > > >> >> > > reference
>> > > >> >> > >    to updated documentation pages that explain how to start
>> > with
>> > > >> >> > > Ignite.NET on
>> > > >> >> > >    various platforms.
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > Hope, you will find this helpful, thanks for helping with
>> > project
>> > > >> >> > > promotion!
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > -
>> > > >> >> > > Denis
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 7:32 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <
>> > > >> ptupit...@apache.org>
>> > > >> >> > > wrote:
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> > > > Denis,
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > The first post is going to be ready soon, probably by
>> > tomorrow.
>> > > >> >> > > > Here is a draft, feedback welcome:
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > >
>> > > >> >> >
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >>
>> > >
>> > https://github.com/ptupitsyn/ptupitsyn.github.io/blob/ignite-2.8/_posts/2020-03-05-Whats-New-In-Ignite-Net-2.8.md
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 5:15 PM Denis Magda <
>> > dma...@apache.org>
>> > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > Hi Pavel,
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > Excellent! It will be good to publish the first article
>> > > (what's
>> > > >> >> new
>> > > >> >> > in
>> > > >> >> > > > > Ignite.NET 2.8) prior to a generic blog on
>> > blogs.apache.org
>> > > so
>> > > >> >> that
>> > > >> >> > we
>> > > >> >> > > > can
>> > > >> >> > > > > link your post in for those who are looking for more
>> > details.
>> > > >> Do
>> > > >> >> you
>> > > >> >> > > have
>> > > >> >> > > > > any timeline in mind for this article?
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > @Alexey Zinoviev <zaleslaw....@gmail.com>, how about you
>> > > >> >> preparing
>> > > >> >> > > > several
>> > > >> >> > > > > paragraphs for the blog highlighting the biggest changes in
>> > > ML?
>> > > >> >> The
>> > > >> >> > > same
>> > > >> >> > > > > highlighted content will be elaborated during the webinar.
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > -
>> > > >> >> > > > > Denis
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 2:29 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <
>> > > >> >> ptupit...@apache.org>
>> > > >> >> > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > Denis, I have a few blog posts on Ignite.NET planned:
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > * What's new in Ignite.NET 2.8 (Thin Client Partition
>> > > >> Awareness,
>> > > >> >> > > > logging,
>> > > >> >> > > > > > expiry policy, cluster API, .NET Core 3.x, Dockerfile)
>> > > >> >> > > > > > * Ignite.NET performance improvements on .NET Core 3.x
>> > > >> >> > > > > > * Ignite.NET Partition Awareness performance
>> > > >> >> > > > > > * Fixing JNI thread leak in Ignite.NET
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > What do you think? Should we have a schedule of some
>> > sorts?
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 9:58 PM Alexey Zinoviev <
>> > > >> >> > > zaleslaw....@gmail.com
>> > > >> >> > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > wrote:
>> > > >> >> > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > Sounds ineresting, will help with the post, please
>> > share
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> >> > > > template,
>> > > >> >> > > > > > not
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > sure about webinar
>> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > вт, 3 мар. 2020 г., 20:59 Denis Magda <
>> > dma...@apache.org
>> > > >:
>> > > >> >> > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Igniters,
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Let's discuss approaches for a global
>> > > >> >> announcement/promotion of
>> > > >> >> > > the
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > release. I would suggest focusing on a blog post and
>> > a
>> > > >> >> > community
>> > > >> >> > > > > > webinar.
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > The blog post will introduce significant improvements
>> > > >> >> (service
>> > > >> >> > > > grid,
>> > > >> >> > > > > > thin
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > clients, new metrics system, ML, etc.) sharing
>> > > >> references to
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > documentation
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > pages with more details.  It will be published on
>> > > >> >> > > blogs.apache.org
>> > > >> >> > > > > in
>> > > >> >> > > > > > a
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > format similar to this one -
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> https://blogs.apache.org/ignite/entry/apache-ignite-2-7-deep.
>> > > >> >> > I
>> > > >> >> > > > can
>> > > >> >> > > > > > work
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > on
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > it unless anybody else is willing to share the news
>> > on
>> > > >> >> behalf
>> > > >> >> > of
>> > > >> >> > > > the
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > community.
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Next, the blog post will be featuring a community
>> > > webinar
>> > > >> >> that
>> > > >> >> > is
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > breaking
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > down a subset of the improvements in more detail.
>> > > Please
>> > > >> >> see an
>> > > >> >> > > > > > abstract
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > below with suggested topics for a detailed overview.
>> > > >> @Alexey
>> > > >> >> > > > Zinoviev
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > <zaleslaw....@gmail.com>, would you be able to
>> > present
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> >> ML
>> > > >> >> > > > part?
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > @Nikolay
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > Izhikov <nizhi...@apache.org> or @Andrey Gura <
>> > > >> >> > > ag...@gridgain.com>
>> > > >> >> > > > > > would
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > you like to take over the metrics section? I'll work
>> > > the
>> > > >> >> > > attendees
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > through
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > the items listed in "Sustainable production under
>> > high
>> > > >> >> load".
>> > > >> >> > We
>> > > >> >> > > > > should
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > target the webinar for the April timeframe.
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > *Topmost changes in Apache Ignite 2.8 for production
>> > > >> >> > maintenance
>> > > >> >> > > > and
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > machine learning*
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > *Apache Ignite community rolled out more than 1900
>> > > >> changes
>> > > >> >> in
>> > > >> >> > > > Ignite
>> > > >> >> > > > > > 2.8
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > that enhanced almost all the components of the
>> > > platform.
>> > > >> The
>> > > >> >> > > > release
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > notes
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > go with hundreds of lines trying to catalog the
>> > > >> >> improvements.
>> > > >> >> > > Join
>> > > >> >> > > > > this
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > webinar led by Ignite community members demonstrating
>> > > and
>> > > >> >> > > > dissecting
>> > > >> >> > > > > > new
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > capabilities related to production maintenance,
>> > > >> monitoring,
>> > > >> >> and
>> > > >> >> > > > > machine
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > learning that you do not want to lose sight of:*
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    - *Sustainable production under high load: Ignite
>> > > >> >> > persistence
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > compaction
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    and consistent crash recovery, baseline topology
>> > > >> >> > > > auto-adjustment,
>> > > >> >> > > > > no
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    interruption of operations for some cluster
>> > topology
>> > > >> >> change
>> > > >> >> > > > > events.*
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    - *Next-generation system for monitoring and code
>> > > >> >> tracing:
>> > > >> >> > > > design
>> > > >> >> > > > > > and
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    usage, exporters configuration (JMX, SQL,
>> > > OpenCensus)
>> > > >> *
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    - *Ignite Machine Learning major upgrade: a
>> > revised
>> > > >> >> approach
>> > > >> >> > > for
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > models
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >    training/evaluation, models importing from Spark
>> > ML,
>> > > >> >> XGBoost
>> > > >> >> > > and
>> > > >> >> > > > > > much
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > > more
>> > > >> >> > > > > > > >      *
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