For what it is worth, we use messaging in Ignite to provide grid
notifications for various purposes. These might stimulate compute
operations in the message recipients, but they don't represent compute.

If messaging is removed, how would Ignite provide the ability for a node to
listen to events without the event sender being explicitly aware that the
listener does, or should, exist, to produce a compute projection to send
messages-as-compute-requests to?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 9:28 AM Kseniya Romanova <romanova.ks....@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just wanted to submit a link to the video about some offered changes.
> @valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com <valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>  please add
> it to the wiki page. I created timestamps in the description, so one can
> browse the presentation fast or link the particular section:
> https://youtu.be/zPuLJgUfLaM
> Thanks a lot for the presentation!
>
> вт, 18 авг. 2020 г. в 14:13, Ilya Kasnacheev <ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > Maybe we can implement messaging via compute? Share underlying code but
> > have a different API for convenience (maybe in extras).
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Ilya Kasnacheev
> >
> >
> > вт, 18 авг. 2020 г. в 11:59, Pavel Tupitsyn <ptupit...@apache.org>:
> >
> > > Val,
> > >
> > > > Is see the ".NET Modernization for Ignite 3.0" item in the roadmap,
> but
> > > it
> > > > doesn't provide much detail. What are the actual changes in .NET that
> > you
> > > > propose for 3.0?
> > >
> > > I've updated the roadmap with a brief description.
> > > We want to move away from an old, long unsupported .NET version,
> > > and remove integrations with legacy technologies (old ASP.NET and EF).
> > >
> > > > As for the messaging, so far I haven't seen use cases that would
> > require
> > > > this API. Sometimes users attempt to use it for remote code
> invocation,
> > > but
> > > > compute is usually a better option for this. Do you have any examples
> > > where
> > > > messaging is a better fit then compute?
> > >
> > > I guess you are right, Compute can replace Messaging in most scenarios.
> > >
> > > Messaging can be more convenient, since it is pub-sub - subscriber
> > controls
> > > whether it receives messages on the given topic. But this can be
> achieved
> > > with a little more work with Compute as well.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Pavel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 3:16 AM Saikat Maitra <saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Pavel,
> > > >
> > > > Awesome, thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I remember having .Net modernization as part of Apache Ignite
> 3.0
> > > > roadmap.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Saikat
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 11:04 AM Pavel Tupitsyn <
> ptupit...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Saikat, yes, most definitely.
> > > > > This is mentioned in the wishlist under ".NET: Target .NET Standard
> > > 2.0,
> > > > > discontinue .NET 4.0 support".
> > > > > I'm already working towards this goal by making more code and tests
> > > work
> > > > > properly under .NET Core,
> > > > > so when the time for breaking changes comes, it will be simpler.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 10:06 PM Saikat Maitra <
> > > saikat.mai...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Val,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for adding the Cleanup section and Removals list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pavel, As part of Apache Ignite Roadmap we had mentioned we will
> > add
> > > > > > modernization of .NET. Are we still targeting it in Apache Ignite
> > 3.0
> > > > > > release?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache+Ignite+Roadmap
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Saikat
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 10:04 AM Carbone, Adam <
> > > > > > adam.carb...@bottomline.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you want to make is simpler to have the components that you
> > > want,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > have that be immutable at install time you could take an
> approach
> > > > > similar
> > > > > > > to the way spring does it with their initializer (
> > > > > > > https://start.spring.io/ )  as an example... Basically the
> > concept
> > > > > being
> > > > > > > something that produces a set of configurations that are used
> to
> > > > define
> > > > > > > what the environment looks like ( these could be k8s objects )
> > they
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > be spring-configuration objects? They could be something that
> you
> > > > > develop
> > > > > > > all upon ignite ( probably wouldn’t recommend this approach )
> > > there
> > > > > > seems
> > > > > > > to be plenty of these types of things already
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Example
> > > > > > > * https://spring.io/guides/gs/centralized-configuration
> > > > > > > *
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://cocoon.apache.org/subprojects/configuration/spring-configurator/index.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > And I'm by no means saying to use spring these are just
> examples
> > > > that I
> > > > > > > came across
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm thinking the outcome needs to be a platform config of
> source
> > (
> > > > that
> > > > > > > can be checked in for those doing gitops ) and maybe ends up
> as a
> > > > > config
> > > > > > > map for those doing k8s, and some other fashion for those doing
> > > > > something
> > > > > > > else.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Honestly I am not deep enough into the internals of ignite to
> > know
> > > > how
> > > > > > > this might work for the platform, was more describing what I'm
> > > seeing
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > a bigger picture trend
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Adam Carbone | Director of Innovation – Intelligent Platform
> > Team |
> > > > > > > Bottomline Technologies
> > > > > > > Office: 603-501-6446 | Mobile: 603-570-8418
> > > > > > > www.bottomline.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/13/20, 7:55 PM, "Valentin Kulichenko" <
> > > > > > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Hi Ilya,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Can you please describe your vision of how it should work?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     Let's say, I want to set up a cluster of several standalone
> > > > server
> > > > > > > nodes
> > > > > > >     with a couple of optional modules enabled. What are my
> steps?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     -Val
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 6:03 AM Carbone, Adam <
> > > > > > > adam.carb...@bottomline.com>
> > > > > > >     wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     > Good Morning from the EastCoast
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > I have to agree that the larger industry is tending
> towards
> > > > > > > immutability,
> > > > > > >     > and that you build once and test, then you
> promote/migrate
> > > that
> > > > > > > immutable
> > > > > > >     > binary object, be is a library or a docker image etc...
> > > however
> > > > > > > there are
> > > > > > >     > still patterns that allow you to determine at install/or
> > > > > deployment
> > > > > > > time (
> > > > > > >     > helm as an example, you choose based on your values what
> > the
> > > > > > package
> > > > > > >     > installs/provides ) It just isn't decided at runtime but
> > > > install
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > often
> > > > > > >     > in a gitops type world that is determined by
> configuration
> > as
> > > > > code.
> > > > > > > I think
> > > > > > >     > run time is difficult to manage especially in our
> > > increasingly
> > > > > > >     > containerized world.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > Regards.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > Adam Carbone | Director of Innovation – Intelligent
> > Platform
> > > > > Team |
> > > > > > >     > Bottomline Technologies
> > > > > > >     > Office: 603-501-6446 | Mobile: 603-570-8418
> > > > > > >     > www.bottomline.com
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     > On 8/13/20, 8:01 AM, "Ilya Kasnacheev" <
> > > > > ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >     Hello!
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >     On the contrary, I would suggest that apache2 way was
> > > > > outdated
> > > > > > > even at
> > > > > > >     >     times when apache was all rage.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >     Now the nginx approach is prevalent: on devops phase,
> > > > > assemble
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > custom
> > > > > > >     >     bundle with all plugins included, store it somewhere,
> > and
> > > > > ship
> > > > > > > it to
> > > > > > >     >     production as a whole to remove any on-the-fly
> > > uncertainty
> > > > > from
> > > > > > >     > production.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >     This is what docker does, but also maven, which
> > downloads
> > > > > > > dependencies
> > > > > > >     >     during build. You do not need to download anything in
> > > > > runtime,
> > > > > > > except
> > > > > > >     > for
> > > > > > >     >     experimental deployments. You need to be all set
> before
> > > > > runtime
> > > > > > > starts.
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >     Regards,
> > > > > > >     >     --
> > > > > > >     >     Ilya Kasnacheev
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >     ср, 12 авг. 2020 г. в 09:48, Petr Ivanov <
> > > > > mr.wei...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >:
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >     > Hi, Val.
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >     > > On 12 Aug 2020, at 01:31, Valentin Kulichenko <
> > > > > > >     >     > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > Hi Petr,
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > I agree -- we should better modularize the
> > platform.
> > > > The
> > > > > > > current
> > > > > > >     > way if
> > > > > > >     >     > very error-prone, especially during upgrades -- any
> > > > changes
> > > > > > > made
> > > > > > >     > within
> > > > > > >     >     > IGNITE_HOME (configs, scripts, modules, etc.) must
> be
> > > > > merged
> > > > > > > with a
> > > > > > >     > new
> > > > > > >     >     > version of the package. There is no standard way of
> > > doing
> > > > > > this.
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > However, I'm a bit concerned with your suggestion
> > > > > regarding
> > > > > > > custom
> > > > > > >     >     > dependency management. Can you please elaborate on
> > how
> > > > you
> > > > > > > think it
> > > > > > >     > should
> > > > > > >     >     > work? Are there tools we can reuse for this
> purpose?
> > I
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > try to
> > > > > > >     > avoid
> > > > > > >     >     > reinventing the wheel.
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >     > I see it as a a2enmod | 2dismod analog of Apache2.
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >     > We build and store Apache Ignite and its modules as
> > > > > separate
> > > > > > > binaries
> > > > > > >     >     > (binary per module) then use custom script that
> will
> > > know
> > > > > > > where to
> > > > > > >     > download
> > > > > > >     >     > necessary module. Or possibly use modified
> ignite.sh
> > to
> > > > > > specify
> > > > > > >     > required
> > > > > > >     >     > optional libs in run command while ignite.sh will
> > > > download
> > > > > > > everything
> > > > > > >     >     > missing from known storage.
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >     > The whole idea is in storing everything remotely
> and
> > > > > download
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > >     > demand,
> > > > > > >     >     > not have all libs locally from the start.
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > -Val
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:25 PM Petr Ivanov <
> > > > > > > mr.wei...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >     >     > <mailto:mr.wei...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >     > > Hi, Val!
> > > > > > >     >     > > Thanks for your efforts on this endeavour!
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > I would like to suggest deliveries changes in
> > Apache
> > > > > Ignite
> > > > > > > 3.0:
> > > > > > >     >     > >  — modularised  binary delivery — single minimal
> > > binary
> > > > > for
> > > > > > >     > starting
> > > > > > >     >     > Ignite and all other modules and parts of the
> project
> > > > > > > (benchmarks,
> > > > > > >     >     > examples, etc.) packed in their own binary which
> can
> > be
> > > > > added
> > > > > > > via
> > > > > > >     > custom
> > > > > > >     >     > dependency management tool (i.e. modules.sh)
> > > > > > >     >     > >  — same distribution for RPM and DEB packages but
> > > with
> > > > > > > modules
> > > > > > >     > packed as
> > > > > > >     >     > separate ones (PHP for example)
> > > > > > >     >     > >  — separate thin client release cycle with custom
> > > > > > versioning
> > > > > > >     >     > > Possibly, we can we add additional section to the
> > > > > document
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > >     >     > introduced for this part.
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > Also, it seems that full JDK11 support (including
> > > > > building)
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > >     > be a
> > > > > > >     >     > huge milestone and a sign of healthy modern project
> > > that
> > > > > > tends
> > > > > > > to be
> > > > > > >     > on the
> > > > > > >     >     > verge of mainstream technologies and not the
> > stockpile
> > > of
> > > > > > > legacy
> > > > > > >     > leftovers
> > > > > > >     >     > (fully support Iliya in removing all that was
> > > deprecated
> > > > > > and/or
> > > > > > >     > marked as
> > > > > > >     >     > unused anymore).
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > > On 8 Aug 2020, at 02:00, Valentin Kulichenko <
> > > > > > >     >     > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com <mailto:
> > > > > > > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >     > >>
> > > > > > >     >     > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > > Igniters,
> > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > > I've created the page:
> > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache*Ignite*3.0__;Kys!!O3mv9RujDHg!2GlQzPzSAyxjW5tzyIzjaVVuR5_U_s65MCFLww8yIHRMzDqSrm5C2nkXYQErpm9uWJo_$
> > > > > > >     > <
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/Apache*Ignite*3.0__;Kys!!O3mv9RujDHg!2GlQzPzSAyxjW5tzyIzjaVVuR5_U_s65MCFLww8yIHRMzDqSrm5C2nkXYQErpm9uWJo_$
> > > > > > >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > > That's not everything I have in mind, but I
> > believe
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > >     > already a
> > > > > > >     >     > lot
> > > > > > >     >     > > > to talk about :)
> > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > > Please take a look let me know if you have any
> > > > > concerns,
> > > > > > >     > objections, or
> > > > > > >     >     > > > questions. Once we reach the consensus on the
> > > > proposed
> > > > > > > changes,
> > > > > > >     > I will
> > > > > > >     >     > > > start creating tickets in Jira and a more
> > detailed
> > > > > plan.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > > -Val
> > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 6:28 PM Saikat Maitra <
> > > > > > >     > saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >     >     > <mailto:saikat.mai...@gmail.com>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >     > > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> Hi Denis, Val
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> Thank you for your reply and really appreciate
> > it.
> > > > It
> > > > > > > will be
> > > > > > >     > very
> > > > > > >     >     > cool to
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> be able to connect and plan release together
> and
> > > > learn
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > >     > about
> > > > > > >     >     > Ignite in
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> the process :)
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> Regards
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> Saikat
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 7:12 PM Valentin
> > > Kulichenko <
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com <mailto:
> > > > > > >     > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>>
> > > > > > >     >     > wrote:
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> Hi Saikat,
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> That surely is a great idea. We will work
> > > together
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > Denis
> > > > > > >     > on
> > > > > > >     >     > setting
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> this up in the nearest future.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> -Val
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:21 AM Denis Magda <
> > > > > > > dma...@apache.org
> > > > > > >     >     > <mailto:dma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Saikat,
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Fully support your idea on a virtual meetup!
> > > Once
> > > > > Val
> > > > > > >     > collects and
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> outlines
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> the main changes with directions on wiki,
> > we’ll
> > > go
> > > > > > > ahead and
> > > > > > >     >     > schedule
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> the
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> meetup to talk things out in a bit more
> > detail.
> > > > > We’ll
> > > > > > > use our
> > > > > > >     > new
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> Virtual
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Ignite Meetup group for that inviting both
> > > Ignite
> > > > > > >     > contributors and
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> application developers.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Denis
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2020, Saikat Maitra <
> > > > > > >     > saikat.mai...@gmail.com
> > > > > > >     >     > <mailto:saikat.mai...@gmail.com>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Hi Valentin
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Thank you for sharing and starting the
> > thread.
> > > I
> > > > am
> > > > > > > thinking
> > > > > > >     > if it
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> will
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> be
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> a good idea to have a virtual meet setup to
> > > > discuss
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >     > release
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> planning.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> It will help to learn more individual
> > features
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > added
> > > > > > >     > and also
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> to
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> understand about features that have been
> > > > deprecated
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >     > scheduled
> > > > > > >     >     > for
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> removal in Ignite 3.0 release. Also it will
> > > help
> > > > > > > community
> > > > > > >     > member
> > > > > > >     >     > to
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> connect in real time and ask questions and
> > > share
> > > > > > > feedback.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Saikat
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 3:51 AM Ilya
> > Kasnacheev
> > > <
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com <mailto:
> > > > > > > ilya.kasnach...@gmail.com>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> Hello!
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> I hope to see Apache Ignite release 3.0 as
> > API
> > > > > > > trimming
> > > > > > >     > release.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> Let
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> us
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> correct external and internal APIs for
> which
> > > we
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > better
> > > > > > >     > ideas
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> now,
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> as
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> well as remove old and deprecated code.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> We may also introduce new configuration
> > > > mechanisms
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >     > user-facing
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> API
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> (such as cache-less native SQL queries),
> but
> > > > this
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > could
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> prototype
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> before
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> starting the 3.0 task.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> I will advise against targeting large new
> > > > features
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > 3.0.
> > > > > > >     > They
> > > > > > >     >     > can
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> be
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> added in subsequent point releases,
> whereas
> > we
> > > > > can't
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > >     > remove
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> or
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> remodel stuff in point releases.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> --
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> Ilya Kasnacheev
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> чт, 6 авг. 2020 г. в 03:54, Valentin
> > > Kulichenko
> > > > <
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com <mailto:
> > > > > > >     >     > valentin.kuliche...@gmail.com>>:
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> Igniters,
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> I would like to kick off a discussion
> > > regarding
> > > > > > > Ignite 3.0.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> Ignite
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> 2.0
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> exists for more than 3 years now and
> we've
> > > > > already
> > > > > > >     > collected a
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> significant
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> list [1] of changes that we would like to
> > > have,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> implement
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> without breaking compatibility.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> I think it's time to start planning for
> the
> > > > next
> > > > > > > major
> > > > > > >     > release
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> and
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> discussing what should be included. I've
> > > > already
> > > > > > > gathered
> > > > > > >     > some
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> information
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> and feedback, and have some thoughts on
> how
> > > to
> > > > > > > approach
> > > > > > >     > this. In
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> the
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> next
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> few days, I will put everything into a
> Wiki
> > > > page
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > >     > share
> > > > > > >     >     > > >> it
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> once
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> this is done. Stay tuned!
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> I'm willing to drive the 3.0 activities
> > going
> > > > > > > forward as
> > > > > > >     > well.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> In the meantime, if there are any
> immediate
> > > > > > thoughts
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > >     > ideas,
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>> please
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>> feel
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> free to join the thread and share them.
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/__;!!O3mv9RujDHg!2GlQzPzSAyxjW5tzyIzjaVVuR5_U_s65MCFLww8yIHRMzDqSrm5C2nkXYQErpp6mV7IJ$
> > > > > > >     > <
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/__;!!O3mv9RujDHg!2GlQzPzSAyxjW5tzyIzjaVVuR5_U_s65MCFLww8yIHRMzDqSrm5C2nkXYQErpp6mV7IJ$
> > > > > > >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>> Apache+Ignite+3.0+Wishlist
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>> Val
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> --
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> -
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>> Denis
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>>
> > > > > > >     >     > > >>
> > > > > > >     >     > >
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >     >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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