On 1 February 2013 17:54, Mohammad Nour El-Din <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi... > > Dan you just read my mind. I have a plan in my mind that includes more > than one Apache project by which eventually we can support more needs to > users of ASF software, one of these steps for example providing application > suites which is empowered by oss developed at ASF, as much as possible for > sure, and also provided to users by Apache > > Apache Isis is one top candidate for that: > > - What I have in mind is to define a set of application suites that suites > the line of applications Apache Isis was made to make it easy to develop > - From one side these applications will promote for both Apache Isis and > ASF itself > - Also it will widen the base of Apache Isis users > - Also which is as important as the previous point, this will help more and > more committers to join as: > -# It might be easier for them to work an an application built using Apache > Isis instead of jumping into Apache Isis directly as they can see it in > action through working on the application > -# Also different applications will highlight different aspects of Apache > Isis and give us a lead to add to Isis itself which can attract more > committers as well > > I already have an idea of an application in mind which I have seen used and > required by almost all companies I worked for regardless the size of > business or number of employees > > Thoughts ? > Always interested in ideas to help build up the Isis community. With respect to building an application with Isis, I think that's great, though I think that Isis should remain as a framework rather than be considered as an application. Otherwise there's the chance of confusion as to what Isis is. If you have an idea for a particular application, I think the best thing to do might be to seed it in github, then to move it into ASF via the incubator once it's clear that it's a viable initiative. As an fyi, much of the business logic of the app that Jeroen and I are building together could be reusable and may well end up being open sourced. But I think it will probably remain as a separate "brand" from Isis, for the reasons given above. Where I can see some application stuff moving into Isis is in the supporting "technical" domain service. For example, we're just working on a pub/sub mechanism that will probably leverage ServiceMix/Camel. It would be nice to provide that as a service for anyone to use. Another example is a scheduler that integrates Quartz. This is currently up on a github repo of mine [1], but could move into Isis. And another example is a docx service, also on github [2]. In fact, for this one we actually have an Isis ticket to implement [3]; there's quite a few other tickets for similar services at [4] By all means start a DISCUSS thread about the app you have in mind; I could see that there might well be others here (or on the users thread) who might like to contribute to that app. Cheers Dan [1] https://github.com/danhaywood/scheduler-service [2] https://github.com/danhaywood/docx-service [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-172 [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12318871 > NOTE: If more consensus or interest is there I will start a [DISCUSS] > thread for the main idea and that 1st application > > Looking forward to your reply > > On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Dan Haywood <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > I think I'd rather look into see whether DN can work with NoSQL DBs (as > > apparently JDO supports). > > > > But yes, we've never been short of ideas about how to expand the reach of > > Isis. In fact, we probably have over-reached ourselves in our past > trying > > to encompass too many technologies. For now I'd rather we build up our > > base user community by focussing on just one or two well known > > implementations of our core APIs. > > > > Love the enthusiasm, though! And its definitely worth floating these > > ideas; there may be others who want to collaborate on sister projects (eg > > like apache wicket has its semi-formal wicketstuff project). > > > > Cheers > > Dan > > > > > > On 1 February 2013 12:35, Minto van der Sluis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > Another interesting area would be and an alternatives object-store > based > > > on Tinkerpop blueprints. > > > > > > If someone ever wants to embark on writing a graph base object store, > > > Tinkerpop might be the way to go. Looks like Tinkerpop is to the graph > > > scene what DataNucleus is to the relational DB scene. > > > > > > [1] http://www.tinkerpop.com/ > > > [2] https://github.com/tinkerpop/blueprints/wiki > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Minto > > > > > > -- > > > ir. ing. Minto van der Sluis > > > Software innovator / renovator > > > Xup BV > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Thanks > - Mohammad Nour > ---- > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving" > - Albert Einstein >
