Hi Folks, In my limited experience at Apache ;) I've come to notice that communities and therefore projects far exceed their usefulness outside of what current industry or academia is doing. Examples are all over the place, but my own experience stems from my involvement with the Apache Nutch project. Key inventors of that software moved on to Hadoop and goodness knows whatever else, but the current Nutch community remains at around ~1K subscribers on out user@ mailing list. I've personally seen and pushed >15 releases used by countless (1000's) of people around the world. The software exists are THE best maintained, highest quality, production ready Web search software current available to this day. Chris' points are well founded, Tomasso's match very appropriately to the fact that Joshua is nowhere near a dead project. I acknowledge that no-one said it was. The resources available for Joshua are FAR more comprehensive than anywhere else I've seen. FAR FAR more comprehensive. Joshua is the FIRST toolkit to be made available as a packaged, consumable, community-backed software artifact for anyone attempting to get involved with machine translation. NONE of the NMT software communities even come close to providing new software developers with translation packs as Joshua does. They don't even come close. AFAIK, all of the people so far working on NMT have kept everything proprietary... which is utterly useless for the next person or the next academic, etc. This highlights the essence and hits at the heart of why a group of us shepharded Joshua into the ASF in the first place. Believe me, if people are actively discussing a new release on an Apache mailing list (or any mailing list for that matter), there is always purpose in continuing. To bring this back a bit, I will openly state that Matt you have been an excellent champion for JHU as well as representing yourself with regards to the way you have adopted and displayed a forward thinking, collaborative mentality for Joshua. If you feel your job is 'done', then I congratulate you. Joshua will live on... at Apache. Writing software at Apache is not about a competition. It is about writing high quality software in a collaborative environment for the public good. We achieve this through peer review from people we have probably never met. That is called community. If you would be gracious enough to stay with the community as a PMC Chair then it would be highly appreciated. If you feel at any time that this is too much, then let us know. We will be here and we will act when we cross that bridge. Over and out folks. Lewis
On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:04 PM, < dev-digest-h...@joshua.incubator.apache.org> wrote: > > > From: Matt Post <p...@cs.jhu.edu> > To: dev@joshua.incubator.apache.org > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 07:03:58 +0200 > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation (was Re: Path to TLP) > Thanks Tommaso. Though, I should say, initial thanks goes to Zhifei Li. I > just took it over. > > I think I can stick around in the capacity Chris suggests. Thanks, all. > > matt > >
