On 5/27/07, Ola Bini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And no, I don't necessarily think better integration is a good idea, at least not if it means bundling stuff that we choose together and making it more "advanced" to use other solutions. Opinionated software works fine for Rails, but I don't think it's a good model for a language implementation. Further, you pay a price for the kind of integration that MS gives you; namely the lack of choice. The one mainline thing is very easy to do, but you do it with components decided by MS. As soon as you stray from the MS path, everything gets much harder. I don't want to see that happen with JRuby. Which is way I think it would be wrong making something like goldspike more integrated (there are many who don't like the way goldspike works at all), it would be wrong to make assumptions on which database a user wants to use (I mean seriously, a major selling point for JRuby on Rails is the fact that you get to choose among millions of JDBC drivers). I do believe we can make all these things easier (like Nick said, understand Rails db configs better, and things like that), but I don't want to let it get in the way of extensibility.
I guess I understood Morten's suggestion as bundling AR-JDBC, Goldspike, and servlets together, *but not* with JRuby itself. If that was the case, then I'd disagree as well. But if we could have a single package that, once gem installed, would include AR-JDBC, Goldspike, servlet glue, and glassfish, that would be worthwhile. /Nick --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list please visit: http://xircles.codehaus.org/manage_email
