Hi Luke,
I think Jose, also mentioned that it won't be ready for v3.8.0 (but he can
confirm this). My question now would be, given that it seems we would need
a v3.9.0, do you think it's important to include
https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16284 in v3.8.0?

Best,

On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 11:40 AM Luke Chen <show...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Josep
>
> For KIP-966, I think Calvin had mentioned he won't complete in v3.8.0.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/fsnr8wy5fznzfso7jgk90skgyo277fmw
>
> For unclean leader election, all we need is this PR:
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/16284
> For this PR, I think it needs one more week to be completed.
>
> Thanks.
> Luke
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 4:51 PM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We are now really close to the planned code freeze deadline (today EOD).
> > According to KIP-1012 [1] we agreed to stay in the 3.x branch until we
> > achieve feature parity regarding Zookeeper and KRaft. The two main KIPs
> > identified that would achieve this are: KIP-853 [2] and KIP-966 [3].
> > At the moment of writing this email both KIPs are not completed. My
> > question to the people driving both KIPs would be, how much more time do
> > you think it's needed to bring these KIPs to completion?
> >
> > - If the time needed would be short, we could still include these 2 KIPs
> in
> > the release.
> > - However, if the time needed would be on the scale of weeks, we should
> > continue with the release plan for 3.8 and after start working on the 3.9
> > release.
> >
> > What are your thoughts?
> >
> >
> > [1]:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-1012%3A+The+need+for+a+Kafka+3.8.x+release
> > [2]:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-853%3A+KRaft+Controller+Membership+Changes
> > [3]:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-966%3A+Eligible+Leader+Replicas
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 10:40 AM Josep Prat <josep.p...@aiven.io> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rajini,
> > > Yes, we could backport this one to the 3.8 branch. Would you be able to
> > do
> > > this once you merge this PR?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 10:53 PM Rajini Sivaram <
> rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Josep,
> > >>
> > >> The PR https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/13277 for KIP-899 looks
> > ready
> > >> to be merged (waiting for the PR build).The PR changes several files,
> > but
> > >> is relatively straightforward and not risky. Also the changes are
> under
> > a
> > >> config that is not enabled by default. Since the KIP was approved
> before
> > >> KIP freeze, will it be ok to include in 3.8.0?
> > >>
> > >> Thank you,
> > >>
> > >> Rajini
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jun 11, 2024 at 9:35 AM Josep Prat
> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> > >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi all,
> > >> >
> > >> > I just want to remind everybody that the code freeze deadline is
> > >> > approaching. June 12th EOD is the deadline.
> > >> >
> > >> > Please do not automatically backport any commit to the 3.8 branch
> > after
> > >> > June 12th EOD. Ping me if you think the commit should be backported
> > >> (fixes
> > >> > failures in the branch or critical bug fixes).
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks all!
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 8:43 PM José Armando García Sancio
> > >> > <jsan...@confluent.io.invalid> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Josep,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > See my comments below.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 10:52 AM Josep Prat
> > >> <josep.p...@aiven.io.invalid
> > >> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > So I would propose to leave the deadlines as they are and
> manually
> > >> > cherry
> > >> > > > pick the commits related to KIP-853 and KIP-966.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Your proposal sounds good to me. I suspect that will be doing
> > feature
> > >> > > development for KIP-853 past the feature freeze and code freeze
> > date.
> > >> > > Maybe feature development will be finished around the end of June.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'll make sure to cherry pick commits for KIP-853 to the 3.8
> branch
> > >> > > once we have one.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks,
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > -José
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
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