Hi Jason,

There’s a “Motivation” chapter in the KIP:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-280%3A+Enhanced+log+compaction#KIP-280:Enhancedlogcompaction-Motivation

Is it still unclear after reading that?

Kind Regards,
Luís Cabral


From: Jason Gustafson
Sent: 03 July 2018 23:45
To: dev
Subject: Re: [VOTE] KIP-280: Enhanced log compaction

Sorry to join the discussion late. Can you you add to the motivation the
use cases for header-based compaction. This seems not very clear to me.

Thanks,
Jason

On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Luis,
>
> I believe that compaction property is indeed overridable at per-topic
> level, as in
>
> https://github.com/apache/kafka/blob/0cacbcf30e0a90ab9fad7bc310e547
> 7cf959f1fd/clients/src/main/java/org/apache/kafka/common/
> config/TopicConfig.java#L116
>
> And also documented in https://kafka.apache.org/
> documentation/#topicconfigs
>
> Is that right?
>
>
>
> Guozhang
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:41 AM, Luís Cabral <luis_cab...@yahoo.com.invalid
> >
> wrote:
>
> >  Hi Guozhang,
> >
> > You are right that it is not straightforward to add a dependent property
> > validation.
> > Though it is possible to re-design it to allow for this, that effort
> would
> > be better placed under its own KIP, if it really becomes useful for other
> > properties as well.
> > Given this, the fallback-to-offset behaviour currently documented will be
> > used.
> >
> > Also, while analyzing this, I noticed that the existing compaction
> > properties only exist globally, and not per topic.
> > I don't understand why this is, but it again feels like something out of
> > scope for this KIP.
> > Given this, the KIP was updated to only include the global configuration
> > properties, removing the per-topic configs.
> >
> > I'll soon update the PR according to the documentation, but I trust the
> > KIP doesn't need that to close, right?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Luis
> >
> >     On Monday, July 2, 2018, 2:00:08 PM GMT+2, Luís Cabral
> > <luis_cab...@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote:
> >
> >   Hi Guozhang,
> >
> > At the moment the KIP has your vote, Matthias' and Ted's.
> > Should I ask someone else to have a look?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Luis
> >
> >     On Monday, July 2, 2018, 12:16:48 PM GMT+2, Mickael Maison <
> > mickael.mai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  +1 (non binding). Thanks for the KIP!
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 12:26 AM, Guozhang Wang <wangg...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Luis,
> > >
> > > Regarding the minor suggest, I agree it would be better to make it as
> > > mandatory, but it might be a bit tricky because it is a conditional
> > > mandatory one depending on the other config's value. Would like to see
> > your
> > > updated PR.
> > >
> > > Regarding the KIP itself, both Matthias and myself can recast our votes
> > to
> > > the updated wiki, while we still need one more committer to vote
> > according
> > > to the bylaws.
> > >
> > >
> > > Guozhang
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 5:38 AM, Luís Cabral
> > <luis_cab...@yahoo.com.invalid>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>  Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Thank you all for having a look!
> > >>
> > >> The KIP is now updated with the result of these late discussions,
> > though I
> > >> did take some liberty with this part:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>    - If the "compaction.strategy.header" configuration is not set (or
> is
> > >> blank), then the compaction strategy will fallback to "offset";
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Alternatively, we can also set it to be a mandatory property when the
> > >> strategy is "header" and fail the application to start via a config
> > >> validation (I would honestly prefer this, but its up to your taste).
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, this is now a minute detail that can be adapted during the
> final
> > >> stage of this KIP, so are you all alright with me changing the status
> to
> > >> [ACCEPTED]?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Luis
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>    On Thursday, June 28, 2018, 2:08:11 PM GMT+2, Ted Yu <
> > >> yuzhih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  +1
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 4:56 AM, Luís Cabral
> > <luis_cab...@yahoo.com.invalid
> > >> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi Ted,
> > >> > Can I also get your input on this?
> > >> >
> > >> > bq. +1 from my side for using `compaction.strategy` with values
> > >> > "offset","timestamp" and "header" and `compaction.strategy.header`
> > >> > -Matthias
> > >> >
> > >> > bq. +1 from me as well.
> > >> > -Guozhang
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers,
> > >> > Luis
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -- Guozhang
> >
>
>
>
> --
> -- Guozhang
>

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