Hi Ron,

Agreed. `SaslExtensionsCallback` will be the only public API addition and
new documentation for the extension strings.
A question that came up - should the LoginCallbackHandler throw an
exception or simply ignore key/value extension pairs who do not match the
validation regex pattern? I guess it would be better to throw, as to avoid
confusion.

And yes, I will make sure the key/value are validated on the client as well
as in the server. Even then, I structured the getNegotiatedProperty()
method such that the OAUTHBEARER.token can never be overridden. I
considered adding a test for that, but I figured having the regex
validation be enough of a guarantee.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:49 AM Ron Dagostino <rndg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Rajini and Stanislav.  Rajini, yes, I think you are right about the
> login callback handler being more appropriate for retrieving the SASL
> extensions than the login module itself (how many times am I going to have
> to be encouraged to leverage the callback handlers?!? lol).
> OAuthBearerLoginModule should ask its login callback handler to handle an
> instance of SaslExtensionsCallback in addition to an instance of
> OAuthBearerTokenCallback, and the default login callback handler
> implementation (OAuthBearerUnsecuredLoginCallbackHandler) should either
> return an empty map via callback or it should recognize additional JAAS
> module options of the form unsecuredLoginExtension_<extensionName>=value so
> that arbitrary extensions can be added in development and test scenarios
> (similar to how arbitrary claims on unsecured tokens can be created in
> those scenarios via the JAAS module options
> unsecuredLoginStringClaim_<claimName>=value, etc.).  Then the
> OAuthBearerLoginModule can add a map of any extensions to the Subject's
> public credentials where the default SASL client callback handler class (
> OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler) can be amended to support
> SaslExtensionsCallback and look on the Subject accordingly.  There would be
> no need to implement a custom sasl.client.callback.handler.class in this
> case, and no logic would need to be moved to a public static method on
> OAuthBearerLoginModule as I had proposed (at least not right now, anyway --
> there may come a time when a need for a custom
> sasl.client.callback.handler.class is identified, and at that point the
> default implementation would either have to made part of the public API
> with protected rather than private methods so it could be directly extended
> or its logic would have to be moved to public static methods on
> OAuthBearerLoginModule).
>
> So, to try to summarize, I think SaslExtensionsCallback will be the only
> public API addition due to this KIP in terms of code, and then maybe the
> recognition of the unsecuredLoginExtension_<extensionName>=value module
> options in the default unsecured case (which would be a documentation
> change and an internal implementation issue rather than a public API in
> terms of code).  And then also the fact that extension names and values are
> accessed on the server side via negotiated properties.  Do I have that
> summary right?
>
> One thing I want to note is that the code needs to make sure the extension
> names are composed of only ALPHA [a-zA-Z] characters as per the spec (not
> only for that reason, but to also make sure the token available at the
> OAUTHBEARER.token negotiated property can't be overwritten).
>
> Ron
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:43 PM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> stanis...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Ron,
> >
> > Come to think of it, I think what Rajini said makes more sense than my
> > initial proposal. Having the OAuthBearerClientCallbackHandler populate
> > SaslExtensionsCallback by taking a Map from the Subject would ease users'
> > implementation - they'd only have to provide a login callback handler
> which
> > attaches extensions to the Subject.
> > I will now update the PR and the examples in the KIP. Let me know what
> you
> > think
> >
> > Hi Rajini,
> > Yes, I will switch both classes to private/public as it makes total
> sense.
> >
> > Best,
> > Stanislav
> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:02 AM Rajini Sivaram <rajinisiva...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Stanislav,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the KIP. Since SaslExtensions will be an internal class, can
> > we
> > > remove it from the KIP to avoid confusion? Also, can we add the package
> > > name for SaslExtensionsCallback? The PR has it in
> > > org.apache.kafka.common.security which is an internal package. As a
> > public
> > > class, it could be in org.apache.kafka.common.security.auth.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Rajini
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Rajini Sivaram <
> rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Ron,
> > > >
> > > > Is there a reason why wouldn't want to provide extensions using a
> login
> > > > callback handler in the same way as we inject tokens? The easiest way
> > to
> > > > inject custom extensions would be using the JAAS config. So we could
> > have
> > > > both OAuthBearerTokenCallback and SaslExtensionsCallback  processed
> by
> > a
> > > > login callback handler. And the map returned by
> SaslExtensionsCallback
> > > > could be added to Subject by the default
> > > OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler.
> > > > Since OAuth users have to provide a login callback handler anyway,
> > > wouldn't
> > > > it be a better fit?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > Rajini
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Ron Dagostino <rndg...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Stanislav.
> > > >>
> > > >> Implementers of a custom sasl.client.callback.handler.class must be
> > sure
> > > >> to
> > > >> provide the existing logic in
> > > >> org.apache.kafka.common.security.oauthbearer.internals.OAuth
> > > >> BearerSaslClientCallbackHandler
> > > >> that handles instances of OAuthBearerTokenCallback (by retrieving
> the
> > > >> private credential from the Subject); a custom implementation that
> > fails
> > > >> to
> > > >> do this will not work, so the KIP should state this requirement.
> > > >>
> > > >> The question then arises: how should implementers provide the
> existing
> > > >> logic in the OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler class?  That class
> > is
> > > >> not
> > > >> part of the public API, and its
> > handleCallback(OAuthBearerTokenCallback)
> > > >> method, which implements the logic, is private anyway (so even if
> > > someone
> > > >> took the risk of extending the non-API class the method would
> > generally
> > > >> not
> > > >> be available in the subclass).  So as it stands right now
> implementers
> > > are
> > > >> left to copy/paste that logic into their code.  A better solution
> > might
> > > be
> > > >> to have the private method in OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler
> > > >> invoke a
> > > >> public static method on the
> > > >> org.apache.kafka.common.security.oauthbearer.OAuthBearerLoginModule
> > > class
> > > >> (which is part of the public API) to retrieve the credential (e.g.
> > > public
> > > >> static OAuthBearerToken retrieveCredential(Subject)) .  The commit()
> > > >> method
> > > >> of the OAuthBearerLoginModule class is what puts the credential
> there
> > in
> > > >> the first place, so it could make sense for the class to expose the
> > > >> complementary logic for retrieving the credential in this way.
> > > Regarding
> > > >> your question about plugability of LoginModules, yes, the
> LoginModule
> > > >> class
> > > >> is explicitly stated in the JAAS config, so it is indeed pluggable;
> an
> > > >> extending class would override the commit() method, call
> > super.commit(),
> > > >> and if the return value is true it would do whatever is necessary to
> > add
> > > >> the desired SASL extensions to the Subject -- probably in the public
> > > >> credentials -- where a custom sasl.client.callback.handler.class
> would
> > > be
> > > >> able to find them.  The KIP might state this, too.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'll look forward to seeing a new PR once the fix for the 0x01
> > separator
> > > >> issue in the SASL/OAUTHBEARER implementation (KAFKA-7182
> > > >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/KAFKA/issues/KAFKA-7182>)
> is
> > > >> merged.
> > > >>
> > > >> Ron
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:38 PM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> > > >> stanis...@confluent.io>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Hey Ron,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > You brought up some great points. I did my best to address them
> and
> > > >> updated
> > > >> > the KIP.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I should mention that I used commas to separate extensions in the
> > > >> protocol,
> > > >> > because we did not use the recommended Control-A character for
> > > >> separators
> > > >> > in the OAuth message and I figured I would not change it.
> > > >> > Now that I saw your PR about implementing the proper separators in
> > > OAUTH
> > > >> > <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/5391> and will change my
> > > >> > implementation once yours gets merged, meaning commas will be a
> > > >> supported
> > > >> > value for extensions.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > About the implementation: yes you're right, you should define `
> > > >> > sasl.client.callback.handler.class` which has the same
> functionality
> > > >> as `
> > > >> > OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler` plus the additional
> > > >> functionality of
> > > >> > handling the `SaslExtensionsCallback` by attaching extensions to
> it.
> > > >> > The only reason you'd populate the `Subject` object with the
> > > extensions
> > > >> is
> > > >> > if you used the default `SaslClientCallbackHandler` (which handles
> > the
> > > >> > extensions callback by adding whatever's in the subject), as the
> > SCRAM
> > > >> > authentication does.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > https://github.com/stanislavkozlovski/kafka/blob/KAFKA-7169-
> > > >> custom-sasl-extensions/clients/src/main/java/org/
> > > >> apache/kafka/common/security/oauthbearer/internals/OAuthBea
> > > >> rerSaslClient.java#L92
> > > >> > And yes, in that case you would need a custom `LoginModule` which
> > > >> populates
> > > >> > the Subject in that case, although I'm not sure if Kafka supports
> > > >> pluggable
> > > >> > LoginModules. Does it?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best,
> > > >> > Stanislav
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:50 AM Ron Dagostino <rndg...@gmail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Hi Stanislav.  Could you add something to the KIP about the
> > security
> > > >> > > implications related to the CSV name/value pairs sent in the
> > > >> extension?
> > > >> > > For example, the OAuth access token may have a digital
> signature,
> > > but
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > extensions generally will not (unless one of the values is a JWS
> > > >> compact
> > > >> > > serialization, but I doubt anyone would go that far), so the
> > server
> > > >> > > generally cannot trust the extensions to be accurate for
> anything
> > > >> > > critical.  You mentioned the "better tracing and
> troubleshooting"
> > > use
> > > >> > case,
> > > >> > > which I think is fine despite the lack of security; given that
> > lack
> > > of
> > > >> > > security, though, I believe it is important to also state what
> the
> > > >> > > extensions should *not* be used for.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Also, could you indicate in the KIP how the extensions might
> > > actually
> > > >> be
> > > >> > > added?  My take on that would be to extend
> OAuthBearerLoginModule
> > to
> > > >> > > override the initialize() and commit() methods so that the
> derived
> > > >> class
> > > >> > > would have access to the Subject instance and could add a map to
> > the
> > > >> > > subject's public or private credentials when the commit
> succeeds;
> > > >> then I
> > > >> > > think the sasl.client.callback.handler.class would have to be
> > > >> explicitly
> > > >> > > set to a class that extends the default implementation
> > > >> > > (OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler) and retrieves the map
> when
> > > >> > handling
> > > >> > > the SaslExtensionsCallback.  But maybe you are thinking about it
> > > >> > > differently?  Some guidance on how to actually take advantage of
> > the
> > > >> > > feature via an implementation would be a useful addition to the
> > KIP.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Finally, I note that the extension parsing does not support a
> > comma
> > > in
> > > >> > keys
> > > >> > > or values.  This should be addressed somehow -- either by
> > supporting
> > > >> via
> > > >> > an
> > > >> > > escaping mechanism or by explicitly acknowledging that it is
> > > >> unsupported.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Thanks for the KIP and the simultaneous PR -- having both at the
> > > same
> > > >> > time
> > > >> > > really helped.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Ron
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:22 PM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> > > >> > > stanis...@confluent.io>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > Hey group,
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I just created a new KIP about adding customizable SASL
> > extensions
> > > >> to
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > > > OAuthBearer authentication mechanism. More details in the
> > proposal
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > KIP:
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-342%
> > > >>
> > 3A+Add+support+for+Custom+SASL+extensions+in+OAuthBearer+authentication
> > > >> > > > JIRA: KAFKA-7169 <
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-7169>
> > > >> > > > PR: Pull request <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/5379>
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > --
> > > >> > > > Best,
> > > >> > > > Stanislav
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Best,
> > > >> > Stanislav
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Stanislav
> >
>


-- 
Best,
Stanislav

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