Hi Ron,

I saw that and decided that would be the best approach. The current
ScramExtensions implementation uses a Map in the public credentials and I
thought I would follow convention rather than introduce my own thing, but
maybe this is best

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 8:39 AM Ron Dagostino <rndg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stanislav.  I'm wondering if we should make SaslExtensions part of the
> public API.  I mentioned this in my review of the PR, too (and tagged
> Rajini to get her input).  If we add a Map to the Subject's public
> credentials we are basically making a public commitment that any Map
> associated with the public credentials defines the SASL extensions and we
> can never add another instance implementing Map to the public credentials.
> That's a very big constraint we are committing to, and I'm wondering if we
> should make SaslExtensions public and attach an instance of that to the
> Subject's public credentials instead.
>
> Ron
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:15 PM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> stanis...@confluent.io>
> wrote:
>
> > I have updated the PR and KIP to address the comments made so far. Please
> > take another look at them and share your thoughts.
> > KIP:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-342%3A+Add+support+for+Custom+SASL+extensions+in+OAuthBearer+authentication
> > PR: Pull request <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/5379>
> >
> > Best,
> > Stanislav
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 1:58 PM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> > stanis...@confluent.io>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Ron,
> > >
> > > Agreed. `SaslExtensionsCallback` will be the only public API addition
> and
> > > new documentation for the extension strings.
> > > A question that came up - should the LoginCallbackHandler throw an
> > > exception or simply ignore key/value extension pairs who do not match
> the
> > > validation regex pattern? I guess it would be better to throw, as to
> > avoid
> > > confusion.
> > >
> > > And yes, I will make sure the key/value are validated on the client as
> > > well as in the server. Even then, I structured the
> > getNegotiatedProperty()
> > > method such that the OAUTHBEARER.token can never be overridden. I
> > > considered adding a test for that, but I figured having the regex
> > > validation be enough of a guarantee.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:49 AM Ron Dagostino <rndg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Rajini and Stanislav.  Rajini, yes, I think you are right about the
> > >> login callback handler being more appropriate for retrieving the SASL
> > >> extensions than the login module itself (how many times am I going to
> > have
> > >> to be encouraged to leverage the callback handlers?!? lol).
> > >> OAuthBearerLoginModule should ask its login callback handler to handle
> > an
> > >> instance of SaslExtensionsCallback in addition to an instance of
> > >> OAuthBearerTokenCallback, and the default login callback handler
> > >> implementation (OAuthBearerUnsecuredLoginCallbackHandler) should
> either
> > >> return an empty map via callback or it should recognize additional
> JAAS
> > >> module options of the form
> unsecuredLoginExtension_<extensionName>=value
> > >> so
> > >> that arbitrary extensions can be added in development and test
> scenarios
> > >> (similar to how arbitrary claims on unsecured tokens can be created in
> > >> those scenarios via the JAAS module options
> > >> unsecuredLoginStringClaim_<claimName>=value, etc.).  Then the
> > >> OAuthBearerLoginModule can add a map of any extensions to the
> Subject's
> > >> public credentials where the default SASL client callback handler
> class
> > (
> > >> OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler) can be amended to support
> > >> SaslExtensionsCallback and look on the Subject accordingly.  There
> would
> > >> be
> > >> no need to implement a custom sasl.client.callback.handler.class in
> this
> > >> case, and no logic would need to be moved to a public static method on
> > >> OAuthBearerLoginModule as I had proposed (at least not right now,
> anyway
> > >> --
> > >> there may come a time when a need for a custom
> > >> sasl.client.callback.handler.class is identified, and at that point
> the
> > >> default implementation would either have to made part of the public
> API
> > >> with protected rather than private methods so it could be directly
> > >> extended
> > >> or its logic would have to be moved to public static methods on
> > >> OAuthBearerLoginModule).
> > >>
> > >> So, to try to summarize, I think SaslExtensionsCallback will be the
> only
> > >> public API addition due to this KIP in terms of code, and then maybe
> the
> > >> recognition of the unsecuredLoginExtension_<extensionName>=value
> module
> > >> options in the default unsecured case (which would be a documentation
> > >> change and an internal implementation issue rather than a public API
> in
> > >> terms of code).  And then also the fact that extension names and
> values
> > >> are
> > >> accessed on the server side via negotiated properties.  Do I have that
> > >> summary right?
> > >>
> > >> One thing I want to note is that the code needs to make sure the
> > extension
> > >> names are composed of only ALPHA [a-zA-Z] characters as per the spec
> > (not
> > >> only for that reason, but to also make sure the token available at the
> > >> OAUTHBEARER.token negotiated property can't be overwritten).
> > >>
> > >> Ron
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:43 PM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> > >> stanis...@confluent.io>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hey Ron,
> > >> >
> > >> > Come to think of it, I think what Rajini said makes more sense than
> my
> > >> > initial proposal. Having the OAuthBearerClientCallbackHandler
> populate
> > >> > SaslExtensionsCallback by taking a Map from the Subject would ease
> > >> users'
> > >> > implementation - they'd only have to provide a login callback
> handler
> > >> which
> > >> > attaches extensions to the Subject.
> > >> > I will now update the PR and the examples in the KIP. Let me know
> what
> > >> you
> > >> > think
> > >> >
> > >> > Hi Rajini,
> > >> > Yes, I will switch both classes to private/public as it makes total
> > >> sense.
> > >> >
> > >> > Best,
> > >> > Stanislav
> > >> > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:02 AM Rajini Sivaram <
> > rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Stanislav,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Thanks for the KIP. Since SaslExtensions will be an internal
> class,
> > >> can
> > >> > we
> > >> > > remove it from the KIP to avoid confusion? Also, can we add the
> > >> package
> > >> > > name for SaslExtensionsCallback? The PR has it in
> > >> > > org.apache.kafka.common.security which is an internal package. As
> a
> > >> > public
> > >> > > class, it could be in org.apache.kafka.common.security.auth.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Regards,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Rajini
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:50 PM, Rajini Sivaram <
> > >> rajinisiva...@gmail.com
> > >> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Hi Ron,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Is there a reason why wouldn't want to provide extensions using
> a
> > >> login
> > >> > > > callback handler in the same way as we inject tokens? The
> easiest
> > >> way
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > inject custom extensions would be using the JAAS config. So we
> > could
> > >> > have
> > >> > > > both OAuthBearerTokenCallback and SaslExtensionsCallback
> > processed
> > >> by
> > >> > a
> > >> > > > login callback handler. And the map returned by
> > >> SaslExtensionsCallback
> > >> > > > could be added to Subject by the default
> > >> > > OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler.
> > >> > > > Since OAuth users have to provide a login callback handler
> anyway,
> > >> > > wouldn't
> > >> > > > it be a better fit?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Thank you,
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Rajini
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Ron Dagostino <
> rndg...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Hi Stanislav.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Implementers of a custom sasl.client.callback.handler.class
> must
> > be
> > >> > sure
> > >> > > >> to
> > >> > > >> provide the existing logic in
> > >> > > >> org.apache.kafka.common.security.oauthbearer.internals.OAuth
> > >> > > >> BearerSaslClientCallbackHandler
> > >> > > >> that handles instances of OAuthBearerTokenCallback (by
> retrieving
> > >> the
> > >> > > >> private credential from the Subject); a custom implementation
> > that
> > >> > fails
> > >> > > >> to
> > >> > > >> do this will not work, so the KIP should state this
> requirement.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> The question then arises: how should implementers provide the
> > >> existing
> > >> > > >> logic in the OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler class?  That
> > >> class
> > >> > is
> > >> > > >> not
> > >> > > >> part of the public API, and its
> > >> > handleCallback(OAuthBearerTokenCallback)
> > >> > > >> method, which implements the logic, is private anyway (so even
> if
> > >> > > someone
> > >> > > >> took the risk of extending the non-API class the method would
> > >> > generally
> > >> > > >> not
> > >> > > >> be available in the subclass).  So as it stands right now
> > >> implementers
> > >> > > are
> > >> > > >> left to copy/paste that logic into their code.  A better
> solution
> > >> > might
> > >> > > be
> > >> > > >> to have the private method in
> > OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler
> > >> > > >> invoke a
> > >> > > >> public static method on the
> > >> > > >>
> > org.apache.kafka.common.security.oauthbearer.OAuthBearerLoginModule
> > >> > > class
> > >> > > >> (which is part of the public API) to retrieve the credential
> > (e.g.
> > >> > > public
> > >> > > >> static OAuthBearerToken retrieveCredential(Subject)) .  The
> > >> commit()
> > >> > > >> method
> > >> > > >> of the OAuthBearerLoginModule class is what puts the credential
> > >> there
> > >> > in
> > >> > > >> the first place, so it could make sense for the class to expose
> > the
> > >> > > >> complementary logic for retrieving the credential in this way.
> > >> > > Regarding
> > >> > > >> your question about plugability of LoginModules, yes, the
> > >> LoginModule
> > >> > > >> class
> > >> > > >> is explicitly stated in the JAAS config, so it is indeed
> > >> pluggable; an
> > >> > > >> extending class would override the commit() method, call
> > >> > super.commit(),
> > >> > > >> and if the return value is true it would do whatever is
> necessary
> > >> to
> > >> > add
> > >> > > >> the desired SASL extensions to the Subject -- probably in the
> > >> public
> > >> > > >> credentials -- where a custom
> sasl.client.callback.handler.class
> > >> would
> > >> > > be
> > >> > > >> able to find them.  The KIP might state this, too.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> I'll look forward to seeing a new PR once the fix for the 0x01
> > >> > separator
> > >> > > >> issue in the SASL/OAUTHBEARER implementation (KAFKA-7182
> > >> > > >> <
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/KAFKA/issues/KAFKA-7182
> > >)
> > >> is
> > >> > > >> merged.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Ron
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:38 PM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> > >> > > >> stanis...@confluent.io>
> > >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> > Hey Ron,
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > You brought up some great points. I did my best to address
> them
> > >> and
> > >> > > >> updated
> > >> > > >> > the KIP.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > I should mention that I used commas to separate extensions in
> > the
> > >> > > >> protocol,
> > >> > > >> > because we did not use the recommended Control-A character
> for
> > >> > > >> separators
> > >> > > >> > in the OAuth message and I figured I would not change it.
> > >> > > >> > Now that I saw your PR about implementing the proper
> separators
> > >> in
> > >> > > OAUTH
> > >> > > >> > <https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/5391> and will change
> my
> > >> > > >> > implementation once yours gets merged, meaning commas will
> be a
> > >> > > >> supported
> > >> > > >> > value for extensions.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > About the implementation: yes you're right, you should
> define `
> > >> > > >> > sasl.client.callback.handler.class` which has the same
> > >> functionality
> > >> > > >> as `
> > >> > > >> > OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler` plus the additional
> > >> > > >> functionality of
> > >> > > >> > handling the `SaslExtensionsCallback` by attaching extensions
> > to
> > >> it.
> > >> > > >> > The only reason you'd populate the `Subject` object with the
> > >> > > extensions
> > >> > > >> is
> > >> > > >> > if you used the default `SaslClientCallbackHandler` (which
> > >> handles
> > >> > the
> > >> > > >> > extensions callback by adding whatever's in the subject), as
> > the
> > >> > SCRAM
> > >> > > >> > authentication does.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > https://github.com/stanislavkozlovski/kafka/blob/KAFKA-7169-
> > >> > > >> custom-sasl-extensions/clients/src/main/java/org/
> > >> > > >> apache/kafka/common/security/oauthbearer/internals/OAuthBea
> > >> > > >> rerSaslClient.java#L92
> > >> > > >> > And yes, in that case you would need a custom `LoginModule`
> > which
> > >> > > >> populates
> > >> > > >> > the Subject in that case, although I'm not sure if Kafka
> > supports
> > >> > > >> pluggable
> > >> > > >> > LoginModules. Does it?
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Best,
> > >> > > >> > Stanislav
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:50 AM Ron Dagostino <
> > rndg...@gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > > Hi Stanislav.  Could you add something to the KIP about the
> > >> > security
> > >> > > >> > > implications related to the CSV name/value pairs sent in
> the
> > >> > > >> extension?
> > >> > > >> > > For example, the OAuth access token may have a digital
> > >> signature,
> > >> > > but
> > >> > > >> the
> > >> > > >> > > extensions generally will not (unless one of the values is
> a
> > >> JWS
> > >> > > >> compact
> > >> > > >> > > serialization, but I doubt anyone would go that far), so
> the
> > >> > server
> > >> > > >> > > generally cannot trust the extensions to be accurate for
> > >> anything
> > >> > > >> > > critical.  You mentioned the "better tracing and
> > >> troubleshooting"
> > >> > > use
> > >> > > >> > case,
> > >> > > >> > > which I think is fine despite the lack of security; given
> > that
> > >> > lack
> > >> > > of
> > >> > > >> > > security, though, I believe it is important to also state
> > what
> > >> the
> > >> > > >> > > extensions should *not* be used for.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Also, could you indicate in the KIP how the extensions
> might
> > >> > > actually
> > >> > > >> be
> > >> > > >> > > added?  My take on that would be to extend
> > >> OAuthBearerLoginModule
> > >> > to
> > >> > > >> > > override the initialize() and commit() methods so that the
> > >> derived
> > >> > > >> class
> > >> > > >> > > would have access to the Subject instance and could add a
> map
> > >> to
> > >> > the
> > >> > > >> > > subject's public or private credentials when the commit
> > >> succeeds;
> > >> > > >> then I
> > >> > > >> > > think the sasl.client.callback.handler.class would have to
> be
> > >> > > >> explicitly
> > >> > > >> > > set to a class that extends the default implementation
> > >> > > >> > > (OAuthBearerSaslClientCallbackHandler) and retrieves the
> map
> > >> when
> > >> > > >> > handling
> > >> > > >> > > the SaslExtensionsCallback.  But maybe you are thinking
> about
> > >> it
> > >> > > >> > > differently?  Some guidance on how to actually take
> advantage
> > >> of
> > >> > the
> > >> > > >> > > feature via an implementation would be a useful addition to
> > the
> > >> > KIP.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Finally, I note that the extension parsing does not
> support a
> > >> > comma
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > >> > keys
> > >> > > >> > > or values.  This should be addressed somehow -- either by
> > >> > supporting
> > >> > > >> via
> > >> > > >> > an
> > >> > > >> > > escaping mechanism or by explicitly acknowledging that it
> is
> > >> > > >> unsupported.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Thanks for the KIP and the simultaneous PR -- having both
> at
> > >> the
> > >> > > same
> > >> > > >> > time
> > >> > > >> > > really helped.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Ron
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:22 PM Stanislav Kozlovski <
> > >> > > >> > > stanis...@confluent.io>
> > >> > > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > > Hey group,
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > I just created a new KIP about adding customizable SASL
> > >> > extensions
> > >> > > >> to
> > >> > > >> > the
> > >> > > >> > > > OAuthBearer authentication mechanism. More details in the
> > >> > proposal
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > KIP:
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/KIP-342%
> > >> > > >>
> > >> >
> > 3A+Add+support+for+Custom+SASL+extensions+in+OAuthBearer+authentication
> > >> > > >> > > > JIRA: KAFKA-7169 <
> > >> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KAFKA-7169>
> > >> > > >> > > > PR: Pull request <
> > https://github.com/apache/kafka/pull/5379>
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > > > --
> > >> > > >> > > > Best,
> > >> > > >> > > > Stanislav
> > >> > > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > --
> > >> > > >> > Best,
> > >> > > >> > Stanislav
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Best,
> > >> > Stanislav
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best,
> > > Stanislav
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Stanislav
> >
>


-- 
Best,
Stanislav

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