I would also be for 4.0. IMHO we dont have to wait all that long for a a major as we do/did for 3.x
Kind regards, Andreas On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com>wrote: > Guillaume, > > that's why I would go for 4.0 :) > > regards, Achim > > > 2013/12/5 Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org> > > > Forking a git repo is really the easiest way to experiment imho. If > > there's a consensus, we can port all the changes to the karaf repo and > > maintain it in Karaf, else it will certainly be dropped. > > > > +1 too on both ideas (trim down minimal and switch to scr) > > > > The question I wonder about is which version to put that in. I don't > > really see that as a minor change, so I'm tempted to push that into 3.0, > > but if we do, it will delay it even more. > > > > > > > > 2013/12/5 Andreas Pieber <anpie...@gmail.com> > > > > > I'm with David on this one. I would even have no problems if the > minimal > > > distribution would really look like your fork. The only problem is that > > > forking isn't just the best way to maintain a project :-) > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > Andreas > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM, David Jencks <david_jen...@yahoo.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Great idea! I think that scr/ds is better suited to framework > service > > > > wiring than blueprint. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > david jencks > > > > > > > > On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sounds very interesting. Less is more. I absolutely need to try > this > > > :). > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Hadrian > > > > > > > > > > On 12/04/2013 03:41 PM, Ioannis Canellos wrote: > > > > >> For anyone curious on how Karaf without Blueprint would look like, > > > > >> here is a karaf branch that is free of blueprint: > > > > >> https://github.com/iocanel/karaf/tree/karaf-light (it's a fork of > > the > > > > >> karat-2.3.x branch). > > > > >> > > > > >> It is actually a refactored karaf 2.3.x that removes blueprint > from > > > > >> all modules (yet still provides blueprint as feaures). Karaf > > specific > > > > >> blueprint namespace handlers have moved to optional bundles so > that > > > > >> they can still be used if needed. > > > > >> Blueprint has been replaced with Felix SCR (including the shell > > > > >> commands). Moreover, misc refactorings on features and startup > > bundles > > > > >> have been performed in order to reduce the size and the amount of > > > > >> bundles in the minimal distro. > > > > >> > > > > >> The result is a minimal distribution that starts 12 bundles [1] > (out > > > > >> of 37 which were part of karaf 2.3.3 minimal distro). 10 of those > > > > >> bundle were blueprint bundles and the rest are extra noise. > > > > >> > > > > >> My motivation behind this refactoring was: > > > > >> i) I like declarative services more than blueprint. > > > > >> ii) I've been working on projects that are packaged inside the > karaf > > > > >> minimal distro which would benefit from a smaller size (e.g. > > > > >> jclouds-cli). > > > > >> iii) I wanted to make a karaf distro as flexible as possible. > > > > >> > > > > >> Please note that my main focus was the minimal distribution and > also > > > > >> this is not 100% polished. > > > > >> > > > > >> Enjoy! > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> [1]: The bundle list of the minimal distro: > > > > >> > > > > >> ID State Level Name > > > > >> [ 0] [Active ] [ 0] System Bundle (4.0.3) > > > > >> [ 1] [Active ] [ 5] OPS4J Pax Url - mvn: (1.3.6) > > > > >> [ 2] [Active ] [ 5] OPS4J Pax Url - wrap: (1.3.6) > > > > >> [ 3] [Active ] [ 8] OPS4J Pax Logging - API (1.7.1) > > > > >> [ 4] [Active ] [ 8] OPS4J Pax Logging - Service (1.7.1) > > > > >> [ 5] [Active ] [ 10] Apache Felix Configuration Admin > > Service > > > > (1.6.0) > > > > >> [ 6] [Active ] [ 11] Apache Felix File Install (3.2.6) > > > > >> [ 7] [Active ] [ 13] Apache Felix Declarative Services > > (1.6.2) > > > > >> [ 8] [Active ] [ 25] Apache Karaf :: Shell :: Console > > > > (2.3.4.SNAPSHOT) > > > > >> [ 9] [Active ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: Features :: Core > > > > (2.3.4.SNAPSHOT) > > > > >> [ 10] [Active ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: Features :: Command > > > > >> (2.3.4.SNAPSHOT) > > > > >> [ 11] [Active ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: Shell :: Log Commands > > > > >> (2.3.4.SNAPSHOT) > > > > >> [ 12] [Active ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: Shell :: OSGi > Commands > > > > >> (2.3.4.SNAPSHOT) > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Apache Karaf <http://karaf.apache.org/> Committer & PMC > OPS4J Pax Web <http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/> Committer & > Project Lead > OPS4J Pax for Vaadin <http://team.ops4j.org/wiki/display/PAXVAADIN/Home> > Commiter & Project Lead > blog <http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/> >
