Hi Guillaume,
I would prefer to wait after the Karaf 3.0.0 release. We are really
close to the release (just a couple of minor issues and the
documentation update).
Regards
JB
On 12/05/2013 10:40 AM, Guillaume Nodet wrote:
Though, I'm not sure it makes sense to do 2 major releases with a 3 months
interval. We'll have to maintain the branches.
Before taking a decision, I think we should first find out if Ioannis (or
others) want to work on rebasing the work on trunk (in a branch obviously)
in the next days and see how stable it is. If it can be stabilized in the
very short term, we could consider including it for 3.0, else delay it for
4.0.
So I think we should delay the decision a bit ... and first make sure we
all agree on the principles first.
2013/12/5 Andreas Pieber <anpie...@gmail.com>
I would also be for 4.0. IMHO we dont have to wait all that long for a a
major as we do/did for 3.x
Kind regards,
Andreas
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Guillaume,
that's why I would go for 4.0 :)
regards, Achim
2013/12/5 Guillaume Nodet <gno...@apache.org>
Forking a git repo is really the easiest way to experiment imho. If
there's a consensus, we can port all the changes to the karaf repo and
maintain it in Karaf, else it will certainly be dropped.
+1 too on both ideas (trim down minimal and switch to scr)
The question I wonder about is which version to put that in. I don't
really see that as a minor change, so I'm tempted to push that into
3.0,
but if we do, it will delay it even more.
2013/12/5 Andreas Pieber <anpie...@gmail.com>
I'm with David on this one. I would even have no problems if the
minimal
distribution would really look like your fork. The only problem is
that
forking isn't just the best way to maintain a project :-)
Kind regards,
Andreas
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM, David Jencks <
david_jen...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Great idea! I think that scr/ds is better suited to framework
service
wiring than blueprint.
thanks
david jencks
On Dec 4, 2013, at 12:48 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sounds very interesting. Less is more. I absolutely need to try
this
:).
Thanks,
Hadrian
On 12/04/2013 03:41 PM, Ioannis Canellos wrote:
For anyone curious on how Karaf without Blueprint would look
like,
here is a karaf branch that is free of blueprint:
https://github.com/iocanel/karaf/tree/karaf-light (it's a fork
of
the
karat-2.3.x branch).
It is actually a refactored karaf 2.3.x that removes blueprint
from
all modules (yet still provides blueprint as feaures). Karaf
specific
blueprint namespace handlers have moved to optional bundles so
that
they can still be used if needed.
Blueprint has been replaced with Felix SCR (including the shell
commands). Moreover, misc refactorings on features and startup
bundles
have been performed in order to reduce the size and the amount
of
bundles in the minimal distro.
The result is a minimal distribution that starts 12 bundles [1]
(out
of 37 which were part of karaf 2.3.3 minimal distro). 10 of
those
bundle were blueprint bundles and the rest are extra noise.
My motivation behind this refactoring was:
i) I like declarative services more than blueprint.
ii) I've been working on projects that are packaged inside the
karaf
minimal distro which would benefit from a smaller size (e.g.
jclouds-cli).
iii) I wanted to make a karaf distro as flexible as possible.
Please note that my main focus was the minimal distribution and
also
this is not 100% polished.
Enjoy!
[1]: The bundle list of the minimal distro:
ID State Level Name
[ 0] [Active ] [ 0] System Bundle (4.0.3)
[ 1] [Active ] [ 5] OPS4J Pax Url - mvn: (1.3.6)
[ 2] [Active ] [ 5] OPS4J Pax Url - wrap: (1.3.6)
[ 3] [Active ] [ 8] OPS4J Pax Logging - API (1.7.1)
[ 4] [Active ] [ 8] OPS4J Pax Logging - Service (1.7.1)
[ 5] [Active ] [ 10] Apache Felix Configuration Admin
Service
(1.6.0)
[ 6] [Active ] [ 11] Apache Felix File Install (3.2.6)
[ 7] [Active ] [ 13] Apache Felix Declarative Services
(1.6.2)
[ 8] [Active ] [ 25] Apache Karaf :: Shell :: Console
(2.3.4.SNAPSHOT)
[ 9] [Active ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: Features :: Core
(2.3.4.SNAPSHOT)
[ 10] [Active ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: Features :: Command
(2.3.4.SNAPSHOT)
[ 11] [Active ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: Shell :: Log
Commands
(2.3.4.SNAPSHOT)
[ 12] [Active ] [ 30] Apache Karaf :: Shell :: OSGi
Commands
(2.3.4.SNAPSHOT)
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