I confirm too, I've tried full refresh (without Bundle ID) and it resolves
the import on the reinstalled bundle:

karaf@root> list
START LEVEL 100 , List Threshold: 50
   ID   State         Blueprint      Level  Name
[  92] [Active     ] [            ] [   80] Sample Dependency Bundle
(1.0.0.SNAPSHOT)
[  93] [Active     ] [            ] [   80] Sample Dependent Bundle
(1.0.0.SNAPSHOT)

karaf@root> packages:imports 93
Sample Dependency Bundle (92): com.example.dependency;
version=1.0.0.SNAPSHOT

karaf@root> uninstall 92
karaf@root> packages:imports 93
Sample Dependency Bundle (92): com.example.dependency;
version=1.0.0.SNAPSHOT

karaf@root> install -s mvn:com.example/sample-dependency/1.0.0-SNAPSHOT
Bundle ID: 94

karaf@root> packages:imports 93
Sample Dependency Bundle (92): com.example.dependency;
version=1.0.0.SNAPSHOT

karaf@root> refresh 93
karaf@root> packages:imports 93
Sample Dependency Bundle (92): com.example.dependency;
version=1.0.0.SNAPSHOT

karaf@root> refresh
karaf@root> packages:imports 93
Sample Dependency Bundle (94): com.example.dependency;
version=1.0.0.SNAPSHOT



Note: I was unaware of the possibility to invoke "refresh" command without
a bundle ID because the help description states that the command do "Refresh
a bundle"; I assumed then it only works with a bundle ID :-)

Regards,
Cristiano

Il giorno Fri Jan 09 2015 at 10:57:45 Achim Nierbeck <
bcanh...@googlemail.com> ha scritto:

> Looks like we got an issue with the refresh command, though it seems to be
> the other way round, compared to the issue we had with Karaf 3.0.x.
>
> regards, Achim
>
>
> 2015-01-09 10:50 GMT+01:00 Giuseppe Gerla <giuseppe.ge...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Thanks Achim
> > if I do a global refresh bundle 88 goes in not resolved state.
> >
> > The same behavior if I use web console. Using "Refresh packages" button
> > from specific bundle page don't update the bundle state. If I use the
> > "Refresh packages" button from the /system/console/bundles page all works
> > fine.
> >
> > I'd like to investigate what happen if I update a single bundle using
> > "Install/Update" functionality of webconsole.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Regards
> > Giuseppe
> >
> >
> > 2015-01-09 9:46 GMT+01:00 Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi Giuseppe,
> > >
> > > this is rather strange that it works with features, but not with the
> > > refresh command.
> > > OTH we had an issue with it till Karaf 3.0.2, if you just do a refresh
> > > (without the id)
> > > it doesn't refresh the complete container as it's supposed to.
> > > Did you refresh the explicit bundle, or just call bundle:refresh?
> > >
> > > regards, Achim
> > >
> > >
> > > 2015-01-08 22:04 GMT+01:00 Giuseppe Gerla <giuseppe.ge...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Hi Achim
> > > > thanks for your answers.
> > > > The problem is that after refresh 88, bundle is still in Active
> state.
> > > >
> > > > I don't see bundle 87 in the list of bundles installed, but there is
> > > still
> > > > the data/cache/bundle87 folder. This folder disappears when I close
> > karaf
> > > > with shutdown command.
> > > >
> > > > I make also another test. I create a feature for "Sample Dependency
> > > Bundle"
> > > > and another for "Sample Dependent Bundle" that install also the other
> > > > feature.
> > > > In this case if I uninstall the "Sample Dependency Bundle" feature
> > Karaf
> > > > remove the bundle from cache folder and refresh correctly the state
> of
> > > > "Sample Dependent Bundle" in not resolved.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Giuseppe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2015-01-08 20:27 GMT+01:00 Achim Nierbeck <bcanh...@googlemail.com>:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > actually I didn't look at it until now.
> > > > > I think there might be some sort of race on that actual procedure
> > > there.
> > > > > How about retrying with the following scenario.
> > > > >
> > > > > Install 87
> > > > > Install 88
> > > > >
> > > > > uninstall 87
> > > > > refresh 88, should be in non-resolved state after that
> > > > >
> > > > > install 89
> > > > > refresh 88, after that it should be wired to 89 again.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards, Achim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2015-01-08 18:49 GMT+01:00 Cristiano Costantini <
> > > > > cristiano.costant...@gmail.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Achim,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if you look at the file attached to Giuseppe's message, even if
> you
> > > > > refresh
> > > > > > to bundle 88 ( karaf@root> refresh 88 ) the bundle still
> resolves
> > > the
> > > > > > package import on the old and uninstalled bundle 87 instead of
> > bundle
> > > > 89
> > > > > > (anyhow please note that bundle 89  is the same bundle,
> uninstalled
> > > and
> > > > > > installed again, the Jar is not recompiled).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shouldn't bundle 88 start using imports from bundle 89 after the
> > > > explicit
> > > > > > refresh?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you and regards,
> > > > > > Cristiano
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Il giorno Thu Jan 08 2015 at 18:18:21 Achim Nierbeck <
> > > > > > bcanh...@googlemail.com> ha scritto:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > this is the desired behavior as per OSGi - Spec. Until you do a
> > > > refresh
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > bundle 88 it will keep the references to the uninstalled
> bundle.
> > > > > > > The deploy folder is watched by the FileInstaller, which does
> > call
> > > a
> > > > > > > refresh on the framework after the install/uninstall of
> bundles.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards, Achim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2015-01-08 18:10 GMT+01:00 Giuseppe Gerla <
> > > giuseppe.ge...@gmail.com
> > > > >:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all
> > > > > > > > I see a strange behavior about bundles life cycle management
> i
> > > > Karaf.
> > > > > > > > I have a bundle "Sample Dependent" that depends from a
> bundles
> > > > > "Sample
> > > > > > > > Dependency". I install both bundle in karaf and they go in
> > > Started
> > > > > > state.
> > > > > > > > Suppose that "Sample Dependency" has id 87 and "Sample
> > Dependent"
> > > > has
> > > > > > id
> > > > > > > 88.
> > > > > > > > If I digit
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > uninstall 87
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I would expect that bundle 88 will go in Installed (not
> > resolved)
> > > > > > state.
> > > > > > > > Instead the bundle "Sample Dependent" remains in Started.
> > > > > > > > Also if I do refresh or update, the bundle remain in Started.
> > > > > > > > If I restart karaf I see that the bundle "Sample Dependent"
> is
> > > not
> > > > > > > > resolved.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In the file system folder /data/cache I see that bundle 87
> > > relative
> > > > > > > folder
> > > > > > > > is not deleted until karaf is running. This explain the
> > behavior.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My question is: is this the desired behavior? Or the desired
> > > > behavior
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > what I expected?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > N.B. if I use the deploy folder, after removing the bundle
> > > "Sample
> > > > > > > > Dependency" the bundle "Sample Dependent" goes in Installed
> > > state.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > Giuseppe
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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