My thoughts was that

- Karaf OSGi => OSGi is used internaly and by users

- Karaf Cloud => OSGi is used internaly only and not by userrs

The name "Cloud" was because it's focused on immutable resolver at build time but  I am ok with the others proposals.

regards,

François
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Le 06/05/2026 à 15:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit :
Technically, (using your name), both Karaf OSGi and Karaf Cloud are OSGi
internally.

Karaf Cloud looks a bit "weird" to me because it isn't cloud-specific.

Mixing your proposal and Romain's proposal, what about:

- Karaf -> Karaf PAX
- Karaf Simple -> Karaf
- Karaf Integration -> Karaf Orchestration
- Karaf Minimal -> delete

Thoughts?

Regards
JB

On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 1:47 PM Francois Papon <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hi,

May be having :

- Karaf > Karaf OSGi

- Karaf Simple > Karaf Cloud

- Karaf Integration > Karaf Orchestration

I think tagging the standard distribution as OSGi will help to abstract
the OSGi part on the others distribution.

regards,

François
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Le 06/05/2026 à 11:12, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit :
Hi everyone,

Currently, we provide 3 Karaf distributions:
- Karaf
- Karaf Minimal
- Karaf Integration

1. Karaf
This is our standard distribution, packaging the full feature
resolver/service (supporting cap/req), sshd, deployers, diagnostic, kar,
wrapper, etc.
That's the de facto most used distribution.

2. Karaf Minimal
This is a very light distribution, packaging the full feature
resolver/service, config, local shell console, ... Hot deployment, etc
are
not packaged in this distribution by default.

3. Karaf Integration
This is based on the Karaf distribution, adding Apache Camel, ActiveMQ
(similar to what was Apache ServiceMix).

Now, with the new feature service (simple resolver), and the Karaf
services
(Karaf URL, Karaf Web, etc), I propose creating a new distribution
packaging the simple feature service (instead of the full one, and
providing Karaf services instead of Pax services.

I have two questions for you:
1. Should we keep the Karaf Minimal distribution? I'm not sure this
distribution is actually heavily used.
2. Should we rename Karaf as Karaf "Full" and use Karaf for the new
distribution (the one with the simple feature service and Karaf
services)?
Or should we keep the Karaf distribution as it is today and introduce a
new
distribution "Karaf Simple"?

Thoughts?

Regards
JB

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