Hi,

I understand the reasoning behind those names. My main priority is ensuring
that the names are explicit and that "Karaf Cloud" wouldn't be
misinterpreted by our users.

That being said, I still have a slight preference for the following:
- Karaf PAX
- Karaf
- Karaf Orchestration

Thoughts?

Regards,
JB

On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 4:25 PM Francois Papon <[email protected]>
wrote:

> My thoughts was that
>
> - Karaf OSGi => OSGi is used internaly and by users
>
> - Karaf Cloud => OSGi is used internaly only and not by userrs
>
> The name "Cloud" was because it's focused on immutable resolver at build
> time but  I am ok with the others proposals.
>
> regards,
>
> François
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
>
> Le 06/05/2026 à 15:32, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit :
> > Technically, (using your name), both Karaf OSGi and Karaf Cloud are OSGi
> > internally.
> >
> > Karaf Cloud looks a bit "weird" to me because it isn't cloud-specific.
> >
> > Mixing your proposal and Romain's proposal, what about:
> >
> > - Karaf -> Karaf PAX
> > - Karaf Simple -> Karaf
> > - Karaf Integration -> Karaf Orchestration
> > - Karaf Minimal -> delete
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On Wed, May 6, 2026 at 1:47 PM Francois Papon <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> May be having :
> >>
> >> - Karaf > Karaf OSGi
> >>
> >> - Karaf Simple > Karaf Cloud
> >>
> >> - Karaf Integration > Karaf Orchestration
> >>
> >> I think tagging the standard distribution as OSGi will help to abstract
> >> the OSGi part on the others distribution.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >>
> >> François
> >> [email protected]
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >> Le 06/05/2026 à 11:12, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a écrit :
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>>
> >>> Currently, we provide 3 Karaf distributions:
> >>> - Karaf
> >>> - Karaf Minimal
> >>> - Karaf Integration
> >>>
> >>> 1. Karaf
> >>> This is our standard distribution, packaging the full feature
> >>> resolver/service (supporting cap/req), sshd, deployers, diagnostic,
> kar,
> >>> wrapper, etc.
> >>> That's the de facto most used distribution.
> >>>
> >>> 2. Karaf Minimal
> >>> This is a very light distribution, packaging the full feature
> >>> resolver/service, config, local shell console, ... Hot deployment, etc
> >> are
> >>> not packaged in this distribution by default.
> >>>
> >>> 3. Karaf Integration
> >>> This is based on the Karaf distribution, adding Apache Camel, ActiveMQ
> >>> (similar to what was Apache ServiceMix).
> >>>
> >>> Now, with the new feature service (simple resolver), and the Karaf
> >> services
> >>> (Karaf URL, Karaf Web, etc), I propose creating a new distribution
> >>> packaging the simple feature service (instead of the full one, and
> >>> providing Karaf services instead of Pax services.
> >>>
> >>> I have two questions for you:
> >>> 1. Should we keep the Karaf Minimal distribution? I'm not sure this
> >>> distribution is actually heavily used.
> >>> 2. Should we rename Karaf as Karaf "Full" and use Karaf for the new
> >>> distribution (the one with the simple feature service and Karaf
> >> services)?
> >>> Or should we keep the Karaf distribution as it is today and introduce a
> >> new
> >>> distribution "Karaf Simple"?
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
>

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