+1 from me :)

On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 1:55 PM ricardo zanini fernandes <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh that makes perfect sense.
>
> I agree that we can use the global one for fixing CVEs across all the
> repos, for example. Also, all the other use cases you mentioned.
>
> That's clear now, many thanks for clarifying.
>
> I'd like to hear from others. Do we have a +1 to use repo level issues?
>
> cheers!
>
> On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 2:50 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Sorry my lack of clarity on my previous email.
> >
> > What I wanted to say is that we can use both, and move issues around
> > where we see better fit. I just don't think we can avoid a
> > commons/global one.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 1:43 PM ricardo zanini fernandes
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey Alex!
> > >
> > > Thanks for the replies!
> > >
> > > I believe the use cases you just mentioned might have issues opened in
> > the
> > > other repositories and have GH to link them. Wouldn't that make sense?
> > > Plus, I believe these use cases are not the rule, but the exception.
> > > Usually, what we have is a single issue in the scope of a single repo.
> > >
> > > > So, based on the list above, the use of a centralized repo makes
> > > sense. But you know what? Moving issues around is quite easy within
> > > the same organization, so based on my input above I'd argue we can't
> > > live without a centralized repo... but you can certainly move issues
> > > to individual repos if they make more sense there.. as part of the
> > > developer workflow.
> > >
> > > Not sure if I understood your statement here 😅
> > >
> > > So can we or not use the repo level approach? For example, see these I
> > > created yesterday: [1,2]. I had to add the "[SonataFlow Operator]" to
> the
> > > title to give context. Maybe adding more labels? :(
> > >
> > > Anyhow, I think we should take a path. If the usage is this central
> repo
> > > for issues, so be it. But I think, based on the feedback I got here,
> that
> > > we should focus on having the issues at the repo level.
> > >
> > > +1 for the comms strategy after having a release.
> > >
> > > [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/661
> > > [2] https://github.com/apache/incubator-kie-issues/issues/660
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 2:22 PM Alex Porcelli <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 9:17 AM ricardo zanini fernandes
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey folks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Last community meeting we had this topic pending regarding the
> > > > > communication of opening issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand that we must use kie-issues now for opening issues and
> > not
> > > > an
> > > > > internal JIRA anymore. Great! I like GH issues more. Although, I
> > have a
> > > > few
> > > > > Qs and observations:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Why use a central repository for opening issues and not opening
> > issues
> > > > > in the respective repository? This is the convention, and each repo
> > might
> > > > > have different requirements. Like adding different labels or bots.
> > > > Having a
> > > > > central repo for issues seems an anti-pattern.
> > > >
> > > > I agree in principle, however I think this is more complex than that.
> > > > The default use of centralized issue repository helps in the
> following
> > > > scenarios:
> > > >
> > > > - Issues that span multiple repositories (ie. a library upgrade)
> > > > - Some issues may be surfaced on one component but the real issue is
> > > > actually happening in another component. (ie. DMN Runner in KIE
> > > > Sandbox fails with certain input, JIT DMN Runner is failing, but the
> > > > bug is on DMN core engine)
> > > > - General users won't necessary know what repository stores the code
> > > > of the component that they are using
> > > >
> > > > So, based on the list above, the use of a centralized repo makes
> > > > sense. But you know what? Moving issues around is quite easy within
> > > > the same organization, so based on my input above I'd argue we can't
> > > > live without a centralized repo... but you can certainly move issues
> > > > to individual repos if they make more sense there.. as part of the
> > > > developer workflow.
> > > >
> > > > And just keep in mind, for all the purposes in the context of Apache,
> > > > the only real project is KIE, others are only submodules.
> > > >
> > > > > 2) Can't we have templates when opening issues? How do we
> > communicate to
> > > > > the community how to open issues? If we go with this central issues
> > repo,
> > > > > then we need to communicate in each repo that issues can't be
> opened
> > > > there.
> > > > > Or at least disable the issues tab via .asf.yaml file. This passes
> a
> > > > weird
> > > > > message to the community, IMO. The first impression is that we
> might
> > not
> > > > > accept issues. A newcomer will have to look for a contrib/readme
> > file to
> > > > > find where to open.
> > > >
> > > > +1 for templates. And I don't think we need to block the github
> issues
> > > > in repos, we can change this right now (my +1 for that).
> > > >
> > > > For general communication, I think we all agreed to focus first on
> the
> > > > codebase move + a CI baseline... once we are able to cut our first
> > > > release, I suspect our focus will turn to our communications.
> > > >
> > > > > 3) Do we have to migrate internal opening JIRAs to GH Issues? If
> so,
> > can
> > > > we
> > > > > do it as we start working on them instead of a batch migration?
> > > >
> > > > The agreement was to not migrate existing... but for anything to be
> > > > worked... it's expected the individual will copy-n-paste from JIRA to
> > > > GHI to track the work.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank u!
> > > > > --
> > > > > Zanini
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