Hi Everyone,
Lets see, this is all just a symptom of me learning the ropes here and
transitioning into the open development mode. So let me address each
point I believed was raised so that I get concrete feedback about how to
improve and proceed.
1. Snapshot upload
I certainly understand the "second class" citizen concern here and I was
concerned about it myself. At the time I thought my only option was a
private email about the upload. I thought that was worse that
discussing it publically. Ideally I would expect these type of frequent
snapshot distributions to be built via CI. We don't have that setup
yet. I will file a Jira for that but given the information I received
in the general@incubator thread this seemed like it could take awhile.
In the meantime I like Alan's suggestion of uploading to
apache.org/~kminder. I'll do that and send another email.
2. Release vote
We want to avoid co-development at all costs too but at the same time we
still need to make progresss, name and cut "unofficial releases" to
evaluate both at Hortonworks and also to court potential community
members. What should we be calling these to stay within the rules? I
specifically left the SNAPSHOT in everything as an attempt. I expect
that there is still significant work that needs to be done to create
something that will pass legal for an official Apache release. I have
more work to do to understand exactly what needs to be in the LICENSE
and NOTICE files at a minimum. When that was done I was planning on
asking about calling for a vote.
3. v0.1.0 and v0.2.0-rc1
We had all of our history from the GitHub repository imported into the
Apache Git repo where we have continued working. Therefore there are
existing tags for the v0.1.0 and v0.2.0-rc1 so I thought it made the
most sense to continue on. I do acknowledge in hindsight that this is
something that should have been discussed.
3. Co-development
There is no active private repository for this. Everything is being
committed to the Apache git repo at this point. Larry and I in
particular need to find the right balance between high bandwidth brain
storming (e.g. face:face, IM, phone) and email discussions on dev@knox.
4. Jira
Devarj filed INFRA-5922 on March 1st to have Jira setup. I would much
rather be using the Apache Jira so anything that can be done to speed
that up would be appreciated. I'll take the reference to the
Hortonworks Jira out of the docs and I guess we will just have to keep
track of any issues discovered in email. I'll come up with some email
subject convention (e.g. [BUG])
Continued feedback appreciated.
Kevin.
On 3/20/13 5:49 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Hey Guys,
RE: #3, after looking at it in more detail, we need to remove references
to internal Hortonworks JIRA's in our Apache documentation. I realize
Hortonworks
people have their own company systems, etc. Those should not be confused
with their Apache (!Hortonworks) counterparts.
Do we have an Apache Knox JIRA? If not, I would be glad to request one.
Cheers,
Chris
On 3/20/13 2:46 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Kevin,
I'm not sure what this email means, but I'm worried by its context.
Are you suggesting that you have released a version of Apache Knox, with
a version # 0.2.0?
If so, then I have the following statements/questions:
1. Apache releases are VOTEd on by the Apache Knox PPMC and by the Apache
Incubator PMC
(whose VOTEs are the binding ones in this process atm). Unless I missed
it,
I didn't see a VOTE thread, so I'm not sure how you released Apache Knox.
See: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html
Small note: where is RC1?
2. It looks like there is development occurring internally at Hortonworks
here.
Why? Co-developing wastes community resources. All of you guys here that
are interested
in the project should be developing here. Of course there are naming
issues, etc.,
associated with this, but more importantly there are community issues. So
I request
clarification on this.
3. Great job on the documentation!
Looking forward to the clarifications.
Cheers,
Chris
On 3/20/13 2:35 PM, "Kevin Minder" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I decided to cut and share v0.2.0 RC2 of the gateway. I tagged the repo
with v0.2.0-rc2.
For those in Hortonworks I uploaded a ZIP here
https://docs.google.com/a/hortonworks.com/file/d/0BzcmnaxIHtiAZkxhQWZCQ21
y
WTA/edit
Everyone else should be able to create their own following these
instructions.
http://knox.incubator.apache.org/release-process.html
The Apache site is starting to come along.
http://knox.incubator.apache.org/
Of particular interest are the links in the Documentation section of the
left Nav bar.
http://knox.incubator.apache.org/getting-started.html
http://knox.incubator.apache.org/examples.html
http://knox.incubator.apache.org/client.html
http://knox.incubator.apache.org/sandbox.html
I wrote and reorganized a bunch of documentation over the last few days
and I haven't "tested" all of it yet. So there may need to be some
tweaks there and an RC3. Functionally however the more eyes the better
so give it a spin. We are especially interested in feedback.
Kevin.
