Resent with the good adress and to l10n@ also, sorry.
Hi Bernard,
Bernard Marcelly wrote:
Hi,
IMHO translation work is probably too cautious, and this hinders usage of OpenOffice.org.

Take swedish (sv) or spanish (es) languages :
- There is no full package available for 3.1.1, only version 3.1.0.
- The langpacks for 3.1.1 have not been released.
- But langpacks are available as 3.1.1RC2. So power users can install OOo 3.1.1 in these languages, and be happy.

Take italian (it) language :
- Full packages are released for 3.1.1
- Langpacks for 3.1.1 are *not* released.
- But langpacks are available as 3.1.1RC2.
I don't understand why the full package is released but not the langpack.

I don't understand why a langpack in RC2 stays unreleased.
RC2 means that it seems good enough for public tests. If there are some strings not yet translated, or badly translated, this does not prevent from using OpenOffice.org as a whole. If a user does not master one of the published languages, it is better than nothing. And then users of this language will find and report residual errors.
This is not a matter of strings not translated, but of the stability of the version as Joost mentioned.

Releasing or not releasing as stable has always been a difficult choice. User that faces a not fully functional version or version that crashes may never come back to OOo, however if you don't release the version, you will miss testers and their feedback.

We have already seen language specific bugs and for that have decided that a version or language pack that is not tested should not become public. OOo has a QA process even for localized version, this what we have agreed on several times ago.

I've offered my help to each l10n team to help them in this process, it is still valid my time is still dedicated to these teams because it will give more visibility to their versions if they are on the main network, but also, and more important to my eyes, to their teams and the work they have done.

Kind regards
Sophie

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