Michael Wechner wrote:

Antonio Gallardo wrote:

should be a rule as well. The reason for this rule is that regular
releases are important such that people can base their stuff on
something "static".

and my personal opinion is that collaborating on release management

OK. Again this is only your opinion. Thanks for sharing it! :-)

what is your opinion?

My opinion is that an Open Source project is not a company, where the boss says: "Do or retire". Here, people are supposed to help when they can and want. It must be fun. It is not a full time job for many of us. The PMC chair is a different story, he has some responsabilities to do when he accepts the chair, it is part of his duties. Every PMC chair knows that. As we know, there is a lot of more tasks to do in an Open Source project. I think Thorsten already pointed to them, so I will not repeat it again. :-)

In short, every committer is free to decide where they want to help.

But doing the releases is not a lot of fun
and won't give a lot of recognition/appreciation or whatsoever,
so it's not such a big incentive for the individual doing such
a release, but it's important for the community at large.

(everyone wants to cook and eat, but nobody wants to do the dishes).
Money might be an incentive, but we don't have money. So what can we
do?!?!

What I saw in few years working in open source projects:
Release manager is very important. The RMs get fast and high people recognition. Users often note the name of the person releasing the code. They are often looking for the person, who sent the release note. Hence, the users think the release manager is one of the most important committers in a project. That means recognition and the recognition is often the incentive. He becomes a hot spot. He get visibility and thanks to the current Open Source boom, the money can follow this recognition. ;-)

yeah, right ... just like the american dream

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Dream

lol. I showed a "dream" because you told money might be an incentive. I just pointed out how is posible to reach this incentive. Is this a dream or not? I really don't care. ;-)

In my few years in FOSS I learned that not all of us are here for a money hunt. I will said, some yes, but not all. Some of us is here just for the fun of programming, for personal recognition or for the fun of helping other people between other incentives. Am I naive? Maybe. But often nothing is more gratificant than receiving a mail with a "thank you" inside. I think all of us feel a good sensation when this happens. And this is why we often found our selfs fixing bugs or adding a new feature in places that we never used before nor plan to use.

Please note, I am not telling Lenya does not need to have a RM. I am just telling nobody can be forced to be one. ;-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.


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