Thorsten Scherler wrote:
El dom, 05-02-2006 a las 23:03 +0100, Michael Wechner escribió:
I think that's very valuable, but I would argue that you are
definitely
an exception (a very positive exception from my PoV :-), but
maybe I am wrong and the world is more altruistic than I think.


I consider myself as well as such an exception. ;-) I will not make a
list of things what I did/do (that is in the archive in different mls
and projects) but most things I do/did is solving not my problems but
from the community I am involved in.
So, yes, maybe you are wrong and the the world is more altruistic than
you think. ;-)

if, as an outsider to the problems being discussed, i may...:

i should say the particular part of the world that is apt to join open-source projects is a lot more altruistic than michi seems to think. :-D

here's what i understood of this discussion (oh, and yes, my mum is a betazoid):

phase 1: michi wants every formal community member to do their release management chores and thinks people who are not willing should retire. a reasonable opionion, although uncommon among other, less formally structured open-source communities and hence subject to debate.

phase 2; he obviously trod on peoples feet when stating that, and there's the fact that he is the original author, which obviously made people take his words as a sort of "official statement", which he never claimed.

phase 3a; then followed a little bitching back and forth, ending in a constructive solution: the release management howto and the list of volunteers.

phase 3b: more or less at the same time, antonio steps up as RM without much fuss and calls a vote. my *guess* is that he was becoming irritated by the rising tension and unfriendly undertone of the discussion and wanted to shut people down for a while.

phase 4: everybody is happy except michi, which is understandable, since his original point had been completely lost. however, the latest mails on that topic seem profoundly non-relaxed and it's hard for me to extract the important points among all the heat.

now, could everyone involved get themselves a coffee and some fresh air?

antonio is willing to start with the job, that takes a lot of the pressure away. with some time gained thus, why not just discuss and eventually vote on linking committer status with the willingness to do a release?


shutting up now,

jörn



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