Hi

Solprovider and Andreas: Thanks for your ideas and judgements!

Am 19.11.2008 um 23:49 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Thoughts about Andreas' comments in the Wiki.  The Wiki is not optimal
for discussions.  I will add this to the Wiki after waiting for
discussion. - solprovider

Image samples: We should accept GIFs, JPEGs, and PNGs.  The SOLR
contest has received 1 GIF, 12 PNGs, and 29 JPEGs.

JPEG format: Quality is determined by the designer.  100% quality will
not have any artifacts (and loses the benefits of compression.)  My
JPEG entry to the SOLR contest is at 70% quality because less than 60%
added artifacts.

I'd suggest too, that we allow any format - we could add a note that people should use high quality.

The image size of 330x210px will not show enough details of a screendesign.

Let us use that format for thumbnails and show a 100% version onclick (ask the participants to provide unscaled images).



Voting: I prefer a system allowing every person to vote on every
entry.  Only allowing positive votes for five entries will not give an
accurate reflection of preferences.  What if we only receive 4
entries?  What if we receive 100 entries?  What if 6 entries are very
similar?  Voting for every entry will discover which entries are most
acceptable.  Once the number is reduced to a manageable (2 or 3,
definitely less than 10) quantity, a typical vote-for-favorite system
can determine the winner.

Vote scores: The Hate-Love example phrases were demonstrating the
concept.  Better words should be used for the contest:
Unacceptable - Dislike - Good - Fantastic

Mmh - for my feeling that is still a bit problematic. I prefer a system with "points" or "stars" (maybe feathers?).



Mailing List vs. Application: This contest is an opportunity to
demonstrate Lenya.  An application to collect votes both eliminates
the work of counting the votes and demonstrates how Lenya is useful in
the real world.  (Of course, the negative is someone needs to build
the application and add it to our website.)

While the idea is somewhat appealing I share Andreas' thought, that ml- voting will be sufficient.



Vote confirmation:  Each voter must provide an email address.  The
email address is sent a memo requiring a response to validate the
vote.  The response may be a link confirming the vote, a reply, or the
traditional password for login.


Vote Strength:  We could score votes based on the voter.  This would
be difficult without an application.  Thoughts are:
Unacceptable - Dislike - Good - Fantastic
- Lenya Committer:  -9, -5, 5, 9
- Apache.org email: -7, -4, 4, 7
- Lenya ML Posters: -5, -3, 3, 5
- Everybody else: -2, -1, 1, 2

If we'd use stars, that could transform into something like:

10 stars for committers
8 stars for apache.org emailees
6 stars for ml posters
4 stars for everybody else

In addition to that I find it necessary that as a last resort, vetoing (suggestion: two -1 ones from committers) is possible. And I'd like to add a note the the voting process can be cancelled by the committers in case of less than 4 (or 3) entries or when there is obvious misuse in the voting process (from more than one person).

Thanks again and have a nice weekend

Jürgen


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