Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
Michael Wechner schrieb:
Andreas Hartmann schrieb:
Hi Lenya devs,

I think everyone is aware that the editor situation still leaves a lot to be desired. IIRC we considered concentrating on one or two editor interfaces and ceasing support for the others.

If we want to follow this approach, IMO there are two ways of deciding which editor to support: according to current usage (survey on user list), or according to technology and features. Which way would you prefer?

I think one should listen to both first and then make a decision. Maybe the coincide and if not then one can still collect arguments for one or the other

This makes sense. Should we start a poll? Rudolf suggests to do it on the wiki, but maybe the participation threshold is lower on the mailing list?

agreed, mailing list has probably hight participation

I have to admit that I'm in favor of the latter approach. I think we can only provide a good user experience if the editor possesses an adequate technological basis.

which one do you suggest?

IMO there are some mandatory requirements:

* We have to provide an editor for the major browsers (FF, IE, Safari)
* We have to provide custom XML editing

+1

At the moment I think these requirements can't be met with a single editor.

From what I heard, TinyMCE is very popular a cross-browser (X)HTML editor, allows customization (AFAIK the EPO uses an enhanced TinyMCE), and doesn't make as much trouble as Kupu. BTW, I have some code somewhere which allows to execute build files in modules. We could use that to download TinyCME when the tinymce module is installed. WDYT?

I also think TinyMCE is quite fine, but please aware of the lincense

Also one might want to consider Xinha

OTOH, from my experience the browser plug-in approach (Yulup, Firedocs) allows to offer a very good user experience and rich feature set. Here the major question is about the communication interface. I'm not sure if it is realistic to expect the editor vendors to agree on a standard interface (like CMIS), though.

I wouldn't rely on CMIS for the moment, but I still very much believe that Lenya and all other CMS should support something like the Neutron/Atom/OrWhatever protocol and allow to easily use such editors as Yulup and Firedocs
Another option would be a thighter cooperation between the editor vendors and the Lenya community. This was quite good when we started to integrate Kupu, but Guido Wesdorp hasn't been active on the list for quite some time. The same applies to BXE.

as you point out there is the risk of a "single point of failure"

Cheers

Michael

Thomas, will you find the time to help completing the Firedocs interface anytime soon?

-- Andreas




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