> Have a look at www.csszengarden.com

won't read with HAL.

> http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/094/094.css&page=0

nor that

> http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/099/099.css&page=0

no alt tags. close your eyes, and imagine your computer reading the page to
you. what do you get?

Ian W


----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK


> Have a look at www.csszengarden.com to see how site content should be
> presented. The HTML is simple, but the impact of the stylesheet on the
> presentation is just amazing as is shown by the number of different ways
the
> site can be presented.
>
> As an example...
> http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/094/094.css&page=0
>
> And then have a look at this:
> http://www.csszengarden.com/?cssfile=/099/099.css&page=0
>
>
> As to flash. Only thing I'm using it for is to build an online interactive
> game which will this time next year make me a millionaire...isn't that
right
> Rodney!
>
> Adam
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Westbrook (BT account) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 16 April 2004 10:31
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK
> >
> >
> > <rant>
> > the big problem is - as the DRC report released this week mentions -
that
> > accessible web sites need to make aesthetic/layout compromises to be
> > entirely accessible (no left nav bars being the most obvious example -
at
> > least until all screen reader progs develop to the point wher they can
> > handle 'em), and most web developers (current company excluded, of
course
> > ;-) still seem obsessed with Flash. I've even come across sites which
are
> > entirely built as _one Flash movie_ (not even a separate movie for each
> > page) - which is about as _in_accessible as it gets...
> >
> > Come October, when section 3 of the DDA comes into effect, I
> > reckon Flash is
> > gonna be dead in the water - or at least retreat to where it
> > should be, used
> > occasionally for interactive graphics.
> > </rant>
> >
> > Ian W
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Damian Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:23 AM
> > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK
> >
> >
> > > Because w3 is so goddamn dry- I wish they'd build their site better
but
> > > I guess a million people have already told em that. You need people to
> > > make sense of it for those who are less able to understand that
guff...
> > > another plug for you Ian ;)
> > >
> > > We need more evangelists everywhere
> > > amen
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ian Westbrook (BT account) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 16 April 2004 10:20
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK
> > >
> > > > all you need to or want to know about accessibility
> > >
> > >
> > > true, so how come so few web developers actually implement them?
> > >
> > > Ian W
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Matt Horn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:16 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] Website accessibility in the UK
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone's interested I offer accessibility consultancy ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian W
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nice pitch :D
> > > >
> > > > http://www.w3.org/WAI/
> > > >
> > > > all you need to or want to know about accessibility
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > > >
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