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Russ > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuart Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 16 April 2004 10:09 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > Snake, I'd like to help also. How can I get involved? > > Stuart Robinson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "stephen RAdams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:57 AM > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > Well, Snake, seeing as I kind of started this topic; I would > like to help you build up the CFDeveloper website. How can I help? > > Stephen Adams > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Snake Hollywood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 15 April 2004 18:01 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > Well there are several magazines really pushing MM's MX > products, Web pages Made easy, Practical Web Projects and a > couple more by paragon publishing, and I have been plugging > CFDeveloper to them as a resource for their readers to learn > and use coldFusion, and traffic to the CFDeveloepr site is > rather high. The only problem is that with only me running > Cfdeveloper, not much new gets added. It could do with some > additional resource to help build the site and add tutorials, > code snippets and combine all the other online resources into > one big central resource. I have been meaning to get the > members involved more and build up a member submission area > where members can add there own tips, tutorials, code > snippets etc. But it's all a matter of time, and lack of. > > Russ Michaels > Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer > > CFDeveloper > The free resource and community for ColdFusion developer. > http://www.cfdeveloper.co.uk > > Join the CFDeveloper discussion lists. > To subscribe send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: stephen RAdams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 15 April 2004 08:48 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > > > Hi Lucas, > > > > Thanks for getting back to us, (but on your holiday, wow). Anyway I > > think, from my perspective what I'd like to see in the UK > is the name > > of ColdFusion being promoted better. If you go to a large > organisation > > like BT and you say "we can build a site for you in half > the time, but > > using ColdFusion instead of ASP or Java" would they know what > > ColdFusion is and if they have heard of the name, would they know > > enough about CF to know what all the benefits of using CF over other > > products are. > > > > I do like the idea that Mark Woods said of having a site just > > dedicated to ColdFusion like www.asp.net. At the moment if you say > > that CF is by Macromedia, they would probably say "oh, > don't they make > > Flash". Everyone has heard of Flash, why can't Macromedia > make a name > > of CF as they have with Flash? > > > > If MM were willing to support a ColdFusion specific site I am sure > > that there would be developers out there willing to spend some of > > their free time developing the site. > > > > Stephen Adams > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lucas Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 14 April 2004 18:25 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > Hey Stephen et al, > > So I am the MM guy here... > > But I am not really sure what you would like us to say. So > these are > > my thoughts, not those of the company I work for. > > > > CF represents MMs third largest product and we sink > hundreds of hours > > speaking to User groups, speaking to developers and customers. > > > > There are many on this list that know that I am basicly at > every MMUG > > and CFUG that I can get to (I am currently in SF on > holiday, in a park > > and still reading this list - gotta love wireless) > > > > I am reminded of a phrase, we help those who help themselves. I > > traveled to the largest usergroup meeting that the northern > usergroup > > had. It was 20 people. Not really compelling for MM to pay > the train > > fair for that. > > > > MM's partner team are more than happy to come to almost any > end user > > meeting that you care to have (as long as you can show that > there will > > be > > revenue) > > and help you pitch CF > > > > And as for the comment about CF evangelists, I guess that is what I > > am... That is what my card says anyway... L. > > -- > > Lucas Sherwood > > Evangelist - Server Products > > Macromedia EMEA > > -----Original Message----- > > From: stephen RAdams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 14 April 2004 12:16 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > OK, so far we sound as though we agreed, CF in the UK could be and > > should be better supported, but how can we make MM aware of > this. No > > one from MM has replied to this list. Should we post of > CF-talk list > > or in the Macromedia Forums. It would be nice to get an official > > response from someone in MM. > > > > Stephen Adams > > Web Developer/Information Sharing > > Community Partnerships > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Powell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 14 April 2004 12:19 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: Steve Powell > > Subject: RE: [ cf-dev ] The state of ColdFusion in the UK > > > > I've implemented ColdFusion systems at a number of fairly big names. > > > > Like others here I've encountered resistence because finding CF > > developers isn't straight forward (it isn't something our Project > > Managers have heard of) they also like to know that there are other > > companies out there using it, a kind of safety in numbers thing. > > > > I've often had to compile lists of comapnies that use it and also > > demonstrate that there are enough CF dvelopers available to cover > > their needs once we've left. > > > > I think the usage of CF is grossly under-reported. I've > seen quite a > > few installations at places that you wouldn't immediately > think of as > > well as knowing about a number of Intranet apps that aren't exactly > > visible. > > > > All of this would benefit from a higher profile and > generally greater > > awareness. > > > > MM in the UK provide precious little support outside of > CFUGUK and not > > that much for CFUKUG. MM UK have had a poor reputation for > years, you > > should have tried getting support out of them for Director (their > > flagship product) 5 years ago. > > > > Almost everything gets referred to the US as the guys here are all > > sales and not much else. > > > > What the solution to this is though I have no idea. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF > > provided by activepdf.com* > > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > > proworkflow.com* > > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > > gradwell.com* > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF > > provided by activepdf.com* > > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > > proworkflow.com* > > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > > gradwell.com* > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF > > provided by activepdf.com* > > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > > proworkflow.com* > > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > > gradwell.com* > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -- > > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF > > provided by activepdf.com* > > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > > proworkflow.com* > > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > > gradwell.com* > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: > *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: > *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by > proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by > gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at > http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ > > CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- > *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: > *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* > *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow > provided by proworkflow.com* > *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists > hosted by gradwell.com* > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- These lists are syncronised with the CFDeveloper forum at http://forum.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40lists.cfdeveloper.co.uk/ CFDeveloper Sponsors and contributors:- *Hosting and support provided by CFMXhosting.co.uk* :: *ActivePDF provided by activepdf.com* *Forums provided by fusetalk.com* :: *ProWorkFlow provided by proworkflow.com* *Tutorials provided by helmguru.com* :: *Lists hosted by gradwell.com* To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
