>Log4j is owned by the Logging Services PMC. You cannot incubate it without this PMC’s approval.
Exactly. As far as I understand, Logging pmc should accept patches and release fixes or they should approve reincubating. Of course, you can try rejecting patches and disapprove reincubation, however, that won't hold water. Unfortunately, I have not seen the response from the logging pmc regarding approve/disapprove re-incubating. There's a pending question to Ron still. I do not consider forks outside of the ASF. >But I notice the one topic you did not respond to was the lack of interested people other than yourself. Why is that? I find the question irrelevant, and I find it has nothing to do with accepting patches and releasing 1.2 I belive there were even people on incubator thread, so it is strange why do you demand that I provide you with a list of rock-star 1.x maintainers. 1) I can't guarantee I will be alive in February. Can you guarantee all the logging pmc members will be alive then? I doubt so. So I find that questions like "how can we be sure you will send patches" too intimate. 2) I have already filed a patch for buildscripts. Whould you review it and merge? 3) Suppose I find a team (e.g 4-5 ASF fellows) who are willing to support 1.2. What do you do then? Would you add all of them to the logging pmc? I don't really see the point why do you ask, and at the same time I can't guarantee the people I gather will be alive tomorrow. I can't guarantee they will always have interest in 1.2 Vladimir