Makes sense. I will close thus vote not earlier than Jan 5, if there is no 
further objections. Thanks for  your input Tim

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On Thu, Dec 30, 2021, at 01:56, Tim Perry wrote:
> I propose that this vote should stay open longer than 72 hours given 
> that we are coming up on New Years and many people who would wish to 
> weigh in might be on vacation right now. 
>
> Tim
>
>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 2:29 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Consistent contributors are frequently invited to be committers and later 
>> PMC members. Having at least three people maintaining anything is an Apache 
>> standard for maintaining vendor neutrality, ensuring a minimum number of 
>> people can verify release candidates to address security issues or any other 
>> releases.
>> 
>> —
>> Matt Sicker
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2021, at 14:41, Vladimir Sitnikov <sitnikov.vladi...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Log4j is owned by the Logging Services PMC. You cannot incubate it without
>>> this PMC’s approval.
>>> 
>>> Exactly. As far as I understand, Logging pmc should accept patches and
>>> release fixes or they should approve reincubating.
>>> Of course, you can try rejecting patches and disapprove reincubation,
>>> however, that won't hold water.
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately, I have not seen the response from the logging pmc regarding
>>> approve/disapprove re-incubating. There's a pending question to Ron still.
>>> 
>>> I do not consider forks outside of the ASF.
>>> 
>>>> But I notice the one topic you did not respond to was the lack of
>>> interested people other than yourself. Why is that?
>>> 
>>> I find the question irrelevant, and I find it has nothing to do with
>>> accepting patches and releasing 1.2
>>> I belive there were even people on incubator thread, so it is strange why
>>> do you demand that I provide you with a list of rock-star 1.x maintainers.
>>> 
>>> 1) I can't guarantee I will be alive in February. Can you guarantee all the
>>> logging pmc members will be alive then? I doubt so. So I find that
>>> questions like "how can we be sure you will send patches" too intimate.
>>> 
>>> 2) I have already filed a patch for buildscripts. Whould you review it and
>>> merge?
>>> 
>>> 3) Suppose I find a team (e.g 4-5 ASF fellows) who are willing to support
>>> 1.2. What do you do then? Would you add all of them to the logging pmc?
>>> I don't really see the point why do you ask, and at the same time I can't
>>> guarantee the people I gather will be alive tomorrow. I can't guarantee
>>> they will always have interest in 1.2
>>> 
>>> Vladimir

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