If there is long term commitment apart from these urgent fixes we can run another vote.
You cannot guarantee you are alive by February, nobody can give such guarantees. The logging pmc is not here to accept all patches as they come in but to make decisions best to the project (among other duties). Once there is a mandate and consent among pmc we most likely try to review and comment on the prs coming in. No guarantees though your pr will be accepted as it is. That said, we continue to vote in New committers and pmc members as we always have. Prerequisites to become logging committer is long term interest in logging and understanding the ASF way. Also, I daresay, many people here like to add new people when they are adding positive attitude (versus toxic behavior). I hope all your questions are clarified now and we can continue to discuss (see Ralph's message) on slack and vote in this thread, which is, btw not meant for discussion but for voting. -- The Apache Software Foundation V.P., Data Privacy On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, at 21:41, Vladimir Sitnikov wrote: >>Log4j is owned by the Logging Services PMC. You cannot incubate it without > this PMC’s approval. > > Exactly. As far as I understand, Logging pmc should accept patches and > release fixes or they should approve reincubating. > Of course, you can try rejecting patches and disapprove reincubation, > however, that won't hold water. > > Unfortunately, I have not seen the response from the logging pmc regarding > approve/disapprove re-incubating. There's a pending question to Ron still. > > I do not consider forks outside of the ASF. > >>But I notice the one topic you did not respond to was the lack of > interested people other than yourself. Why is that? > > I find the question irrelevant, and I find it has nothing to do with > accepting patches and releasing 1.2 > I belive there were even people on incubator thread, so it is strange why > do you demand that I provide you with a list of rock-star 1.x maintainers. > > 1) I can't guarantee I will be alive in February. Can you guarantee all the > logging pmc members will be alive then? I doubt so. So I find that > questions like "how can we be sure you will send patches" too intimate. > > 2) I have already filed a patch for buildscripts. Whould you review it and > merge? > > 3) Suppose I find a team (e.g 4-5 ASF fellows) who are willing to support > 1.2. What do you do then? Would you add all of them to the logging pmc? > I don't really see the point why do you ask, and at the same time I can't > guarantee the people I gather will be alive tomorrow. I can't guarantee > they will always have interest in 1.2 > > Vladimir
