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The comment on this change is: Flesh out "Core Developers", cannibalizing 
information from elsewhere.  Shrink and refine some of the Known Risks. .
http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyIncubatorProposal?action=diff&rev1=20&rev2=21

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  Lucy's chief challenge is growing its community, which it hopes to achieve 
through efforts in two areas: reaching a 1.0 release, and actively reaching out 
to its target audience, users and developers in the dynamic language 
communities who want a fast, scalable full-text search solution in their native 
language.
  
  === Core Developers ===
- Apache is composed of individuals.
  
- It is useful to provide a brief introduction to the developers on the initial 
committers list. This is best done here (and not in that section). This section 
may be used to discuss the diversity of the core development team. Example 
(ServiceMix) The core developers are a diverse group of developers many of 
which are already very experienced open source developers. There is at least 
one Apache Member together with a number of other existing Apache Committers 
along with folks from various companies. http://servicemix.org/Team Example 
(WADI) WADI was founded by Jules Gosnell in 2004, it now has a strong base of 
developers from Geronimo, Castor, OpenEJB, Mojo, Jetty, ActiveCluster, 
ActiveMQ, and ServiceMix.
+  * Marvin Humphrey is the project founder of KinoSearch, and co-founded the 
existing Lucy subproject.  He is presently employed by Eventful, Inc.
+  * Peter Karman has contributed to several open source projects since 2001, 
including being a committer at http://swish-e.org/ (a search engine), 
http://code.google.com/p/rose/ (an ORM) and http://catalyst.perl.org/ (web 
framework).  He is employed by American Public Media.
+  * Nathan Kurz has participated in numerous open source projects and has been 
a KinoSearch committer since 2007.  He is currently Chief Flavor Engineer of 
Scream Sorbet, and writes software in his copious free time.
  
  === Alignment ===
  One Apache value which is particularly cherished by the Lucy community is 
code base transparency.  We have developed institutions which enable us to 
measure and maximize usability (see [http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/BrainLog]), 
and we feel strongly that the bindings for Lucy must present APIs and 
documentation which are idiomatic to the host language culture so that end 
users can consume our work as easily as possible.
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  == Known Risks ==
  
  === Orphaned products ===
- All three initial committers have been associated with the project for 
several years across multiple jobs.  However, at this time, the project would 
probably not survive the departure of the the founder, Marvin Humphrey, so 
there is a risk of being orphaned.  Marvin has no plans to leave, but as a 
community we have been actively working to make him dispensable.
+ All initial committers have been associated with the project for several 
years across multiple jobs.  However, at this time, the project would probably 
not survive the departure of Marvin Humphrey, so there is a risk of being 
orphaned.  Marvin has no plans to leave, but we have been actively working to 
disperse his knowledge of the code base and administrative responsibilities in 
order to make him dispensable.
- 
  
  === Inexperience with Open Source ===
  
+ The initial committers have all have significant experience with open source 
development, and include one present Apache committer.  We recognize that we 
lack PMC experience and seek to address that deficiency by going through the 
Incubator.  In retrospect, Marvin wishes that Lucy had gone through the 
Incubator during its first inception.
- Varying degrees of open source experience:
-  * Marvin Humphrey had moderate experience with open source when Lucy 
started, and is now more seasoned. In retrospect, he wishes that Lucy had gone 
through incubation during its first inception.
-  * Peter Karman has contributed to several open source projects since 2001, 
including being a committer at http://swish-e.org/ (a search engine), 
http://code.google.com/p/rose/ (an ORM) and http://catalyst.perl.org/ (web 
framework).
-  * Nathan Kurz --
- 
- 
  
  === Homogenous Developers ===
  Our community is geographically dispersed, with members in San Diego, 
Oakland, and Minneapolis.  We all work for different organizations.
  
  === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
- Marvin Humphrey is currently employed primarily to work on this project and 
to support applications that use it.
+ Marvin Humphrey has a great job at Eventful working primarily on this project 
and supporting applications that use it.  Nevertheless, he is extremely 
dedicated to Lucy and is determined to see it through to the point where it 
becomes self-sustaining, regardless of work circumstances.
  
  === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===
  When Lucy was conceived, we envisioned that our eventual sub-communities 
(Perl, Ruby, etc) would approach using and extending the library in distinct 
ways, and that we would be able to harness the creative tension between the 
different cultures to drive innovation.  Lucy and Lucene have that kind of a 
relationship today, and multiple significant novelties have either 
cross-pollinated or arisen while discussing competing approaches.  (e.g. object 
conservation during indexing, per-segment search.)
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   1. Peter Karman (peter at peknet dot com)
   1. Nathan Kurz ( n...@verse.com )
  
- == Affiliations ==
- Marvin Humphrey is employed by Eventful, Inc and works primarily on this 
project.
- Peter Karman is employed by American Public Media and contributes to this 
project and several other open source projects.
- 
  == Sponsors ==
  === Champion ===
  

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