Been there, done that. And it’s totally frustrating!

Just to make it totally clear to me, this is the solr-13452_gradle_7 branch of 
the public repo, correct? And we all can push to it?

Cheer up, it’s always faster to do it the second time ;)…

In the bad old days when we didn’t have VCS and were working with “C”, the .c 
files and the compiled version .o were in the same directory. Twice in a week 
the boss typed:

‘rm * .o’

rather than

‘rm *.o”

deleting the source code as well. Oops. 



> On Oct 21, 2019, at 9:58 PM, Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> And yes, if it's not clear, I've lost 80-90% of these same work before. Total 
> idiot.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:56 PM Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The branch is there, certainly it can go in without me.
> 
> It does need the settings.xml fix. When I think about timing, my main concern 
> is my availability - I'll be gone nov 14 to the end of the month and then 
> holidays are busy. If others want to take on the responsibility though, I 
> would not stop it. Trying to get gradle in while keeping my other work from 
> going stale was looking like a tall order by the 14th.
> 
> I'm not sure what my plans are at the moment. I'm a totally idiot and just 
> lost 10 days of 16-20 hours per day of work, including the settings.xml fix. 
> Luckily at least that is straightforward enough to do again.
> 
> As it is, I have little to no desire to do much now. I'll try and make that 
> settings fix soon and then the build is not ready (dist needs work, 
> dependencies need vetting, some other make sure everything is 100% stuff) but 
> it can probably go in and get what it needs as we go.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 7:49 AM Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> Going out on a limb here, as in “this may be a whacky idea but let’s toss it 
> around anyway”.
> 
> - Check in the test fixes and Gradle build in the current state to master/9.0 
> as soon as possible. Essentially let it break however it will, even if that 
> means we shut off Jenkins for a while. Or only test Lucene. Or…..
> 
> - Concentrate (all of us in our copious spare time) on fixing master at least 
> back to the state it is today reliability-wise.
> 
> - Cut Solr 9.0 when it’s ready. My _guess_ would be early next year.
> 
> - Slow/stop 8x development as necessary.
> 
> - Yes, the 8x code line will have a short life, about 1 year. Given that 9.0 
> was the first one we required Java 11, I pretty much expected that.
> 
> I don’t have strong feelings about this proposal, so feel free to shoot it 
> down. That said, if we get the work Mark has done in front of everyone, 
> there’s less incentive to “just let Mark do it”. And it’s not like we’d be 
> breaking the currently released version.
> 
> Erick
> 
> > On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:39 AM, Martin Gainty <mgai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > agree with david
> > as your schedule gets packed there are more than a few that are willing to 
> > pickup the slack
> > if the branch is checked-in and labelled we can tackle what needs to be done
> > From: David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 2:13 AM
> > To: Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com>
> > Cc: Lucene Dev <dev@lucene.apache.org>
> > Subject: Re: The Lucene Solr Gradle Build Game plan
> >  
> > Thanks for your efforts Mark!
> > 
> > Why has the migration to Gradle somehow been blocked by performance 
> > improvements to Solr's tests?
> > What are the blockers to the Gradle branch being merged to master?  It's an 
> > experimental shadow build, so... none?
> > 
> > I appreciate you want everything to be great from the beginning but I think 
> > it's better to try and find that subjective line where it's good enough to 
> > be committed then iterated on in follow-up issues.
> > 
> > ~ David Smiley
> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:30 AM Mark Miller <markrmil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello Dawid, I'm sorry about the absence. I had a two week trip to SF and 
> > that tends to steal my mind, thank god something does.
> > 
> > Yes, I have local changes that you should likely wait for.
> > 
> > There is a substantial issue with how I was mapping our directory names to 
> > project names. That issue led to allowing some funny things and so 
> > addressing it makes the build a bit to a lot less silly. Sorry Tomoko 
> > Uchida :(
> > 
> > Anyway, I had to pause Gradle when I remembered that Solr tests are only 
> > slow for silly or broken reasons.
> > 
> > So I worked on that and then I remember that about a year and a half ago I 
> > had realized SolrCloud was seriously rotting in come very core and key 
> > areas. At the time I spent a lot of effort on my Starburst branch 
> > addressing some fundamental problems and patterns. I then had a 6 week 
> > sabbatical and 3 week movie making trip. Though my own lack of care, I lost 
> > all that work and mostly forgot about the whole thing.
> > 
> > Coming back to that, after wasting a lot of effort trying to find my 
> > previous work, I set off to duplicate that work and hopefully take it a bit 
> > further. I really can't work on anything unless until that is on a clear 
> > path to being addressed unless someone attached to my livelihood forces me.
> > 
> > Meanwhile, I'll be gone half of November on across the world vacation and 
> > December is always a mess.
> > 
> > On the plus side, the gradle build has gotten some great testing, but I'm 
> > little fuzzy on when I'm ready. I will certainly be separating out these 
> > efforts. So I'll be extracting the gradle changes to the gradle branch and 
> > keeping my new state as a separate branch.
> > 
> > - Mark
> 
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