I was thinking that level of detail is in the Jira... I don't see any
reason for things to disappear (in fact rejected should go in a rejected
list for future reference.)

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 12:04 PM Ilan Ginzburg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Maybe also add “in progress”? So items do not disappear suddenly from the
> page when work really starts on them?
>
> On Tue 11 Aug 2020 at 17:15, Gus Heck <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Cool, since I brought it up, I can volunteer to help manage the page. We
>> should get jira issue links in there wherever possible. Do we want to build
>> an initial list and have some sort of Proposed/Planned workflow so readers
>> can have confidence (or appropriate lack of confidence) in what they see
>> there? voting on things seems like too much but maybe folks who care watch
>> the page, and if something is on there for a week without objection it can
>> be called accepted? If a discussion starts here it can be marked
>> "Considering" so... something like this:
>>
>> 4 states: Proposed, Considering, Planned, Rejected
>>
>> Workflow like this:
>> Proposed -------(no objection 1 wk) --> Planned
>> Proposed -------(discussion)----------> Considering
>> Considering ----(agreement) ----------> Planned
>> Considering ----(deferred) -----------> Proposed (later release)
>> Considering ----(unsuitable) ---------> Rejected
>> Considering ----(promoted) -----------> Proposed (earlier release)
>> Planned --------(difficulty found) ---> Considering
>>
>> Anything in "Considering" should have an active dev list thread, and if
>> it didn't happen on the list it didn't happen :). Any of that (or
>> differences of opinion during Considering) can be overridden by a formal
>> vote of course
>>
>> -Gus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 10:29 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I've created a placeholder document here:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Roadmap
>>> Let us put in all our items there.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 4:45 PM Jan Høydahl <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let’s revive this email thread about Roadmap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With so many large initiatives going on, and the TLP split also, I
>>>> think it makes perfect sense with a Roadmap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know we’re not used to that kind of thing - we tend to just let
>>>> things play out as it happens to land in various releases, but this time is
>>>> special, and I think we’d benefit from more coordination. I don’t know how
>>>> to enforce such coordination though, other than appealing to all committers
>>>> to endorse the roadmap and respect it when they merge things. We may not be
>>>> able to set a release date for 9.0 right now, but we may be able to define
>>>> preconditions and scope certain features to 9.0 or 9.1 rather than 8.7 or
>>>> 8.8 - that kind of coarse-grained decisions. We also may need a person that
>>>> «owns» the Roadmap confluence page and actively promotes it, tries to keep
>>>> it up to date and reminds the rest of us about its existence. A roadmap
>>>> must NOT be a brake slowing us down, but a tool helping us avoid silly
>>>> mistakes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > 5. jul. 2020 kl. 02:39 skrev Noble Paul <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > I think the logical thing to do today is completely rip out all
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > autoscaling code as it exists today.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Let's deprecate that in 8.7 and build something for "assign-strategy".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Austoscaling , if required, should not be a part of Solr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 5:48 PM Jan Høydahl <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> +1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> Why don’t we make a Roadmap wiki page as Cassandra suggests, and
>>>> indicate what major things needs to happen when.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> Perhaps if we can get the Solr TLP and git-split ball rolling as a
>>>> pre-9.0 task, then perhaps 8.8 could be the last joint release (6.6, 7.7,
>>>> 8.8 hehe)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> That would enable Lucene to ship 9.0 without waiting for a ton of
>>>> alpha-quality Solr features, and Solr could have its own Roadmap wiki.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> Jan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> 3. jul. 2020 kl. 09:19 skrev Dawid Weiss <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>> I totally expect some things to bubble up when we try to release
>>>> with Gradle, the tarball being one. I don’t think that’s a very big issue,
>>>> but if you have lots of “not very big” issues they do add up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> Adding a tarball is literally 3-5 lines of code (you add a task that
>>>> builds a tarball or a zip file from the outputs of solr/packaging toDir
>>>> task)... The bigger issue with gradle is that somebody has to step up and
>>>> try to identify any other issues and/or missing bits when trying to do a
>>>> full release cycle.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> D.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Noble Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
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