: Hmmm, that’s kind of an dilemma then. Are you saying that 
: he test can see that the directory appears writable then tries
: to write to it then gets tripped up by the framework?
: 
: Seems to me that a test that tries to write, thinks it can and then
: can’t should fail anyway.
: 
: Well, I don’t think there are very many tests that have this problem
: anyway, so maybe I can examine them one-by-one and not 
: introduce new failures...

You keep using the phrase "the test" in the context of (trying to) create 
these directories ("userfiles" and "filestore") ... the "test CODE" isn't 
making any choices about trying to write those files -- the choice is 
being made by the "CoreContainer CODE".

These features were added with the explicit implementation choice to _TRY_ 
to write the "usersfiles" (and/or "filestore") directory to "solr home" IF 
POSSIBLE, and if so then enable a bunch of features -- if NOT then log a 
WARNing and don't enable those features.

So what you're seeing here isn't an artifact/result of any particular 
choices "a test" or "the test" makes -- it's a concious choice of the 
developer who added this feature to solr.  These WARN messages that show 
up in tests where the solr home dir isn't writable (which is actaully the 
vast majority of tests because of how the test framework works) are the 
same types of WARN messages that a "real" solr deployment might get if 
their solr home dir isn't wriable (ie: maybe the use ${solr.data.dir} to 
point to a diff drive).



: 
: > On Aug 31, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Chris Hostetter <hossman_luc...@fucit.org> 
wrote:
: > 
: > 
: > Some tests "create" a new solr home dir and copy config files there, but 
: > you'll see this type of WARN logging for any test that just uses the test 
: > configs "in place" because of how the code is designed to _try_ and create 
: > a userfiles directory in the solr home if it's writable.
: > 
: > 
: > : Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:25:17 -0400
: > : From: Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
: > : Reply-To: dev@lucene.apache.org
: > : To: dev@lucene.apache.org
: > : Subject: Re: Annoying but harmless exceptions due to filepermissions when
: > :     running tests
: > : 
: > : Well, as Uwe and I discussed offline, he’s right and I’m wrong.
: > : 
: > : In CoreContainer [364] there’s code like this:
: > : 
: > : Path userFilesPath = return solrHome.resolve("userfiles"); // TODO make 
configurable on cfg?
: > : try {
: > :   Files.createDirectories(userFilesPath); // does nothing if already 
exists
: > : } catch (Exception e) {
: > :   log.warn("Unable to create [{}].  Features requiring this directory may 
fail.", userFilesPath, e);
: > : }
: > : 
: > : So I assumed it would happen on most every test, at least in cloud mode. 
But when I tried to make it happen on a different test, there was no exception.
: > : 
: > : I’ll have to poke some more to see what’s really happening…
: > : 
: > : Never Mind….
: > : 
: > : > On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
: > : > 
: > : > Hi,
: > : > 
: > : > this is a bug in the test! It should never ever modify files outside 
its sandbox. It should not even modify files in build directory. It is fully 
valid to reject those writes - has nothing to do with users, it's just 
forbidden by the test framework. Modifying this file is harmful, as it may 
affect later tests.
: > : > 
: > : > So the correct way is to copy those files to the solr container running 
inside test's sandbox. That's one of the main advantages of the Test sandbox: 
No write access anywhere outside the test, see policy file.
: > : > 
: > : > Uwe
: > : > 
: > : > -----
: > : > Uwe Schindler
: > : > Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
: > : > https://www.thetaphi.de
: > : > eMail: u...@thetaphi.de
: > : > 
: > : >> -----Original Message-----
: > : >> From: Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
: > : >> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 2:54 PM
: > : >> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
: > : >> Subject: Annoying but harmless exceptions due to filepermissions when 
running
: > : >> tests
: > : >> 
: > : >> These exceptions are handled in the code and don’t affect running 
tests, but
: > : >> they can be a distraction when trying to figure out what’s causing a 
failure.
: > : >> When CoreContainer is being initialized, these two paths get 
“Permission
: > : >> Denied” errors since they try to create directories/files.
: > : >> 
: > : >> java.security.AccessControlException: access denied 
("java.io.FilePermission"
: > : >> 
"/Users/Erick/apache/solrJiras/master/solr/core/build/resources/test/solr/filest
: > : >> ore" "write”)
: > : >> 
: > : >> java.security.AccessControlException: access denied 
("java.io.FilePermission"
: > : >> 
"/Users/Erick/apache/solrJiras/master/solr/core/build/resources/test/solr/userf
: > : >> iles" "write”)
: > : >> 
: > : >> In both cases, the code logs a warning like "Features requiring this 
directory
: > : >> may fail”.
: > : >> 
: > : >> “build” is permitted this way, so I guess gradle runs as some other 
user?
: > : >> 
: > : >> drwxr-xr-x  11 Erick  staff    352 Aug 28 09:30 build
: > : >> 
: > : >> Any hints on an easy way to avoid these? It’s not worth much effort I 
don’t
: > : >> think since they’re handled, but if it’s easy I’d like to not see them.
: > : >> 
: > : >> 
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