Oh bother. Somehow I thought I’d looked and only a handful of tests reported 
this.

So I looked again and I _wish_ I was able to blame drugs cause you’re right, 
there
are over a thousand of them.

Never mind...

> On Sep 1, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Chris Hostetter <hossman_luc...@fucit.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> : Hmmm, that’s kind of an dilemma then. Are you saying that 
> : he test can see that the directory appears writable then tries
> : to write to it then gets tripped up by the framework?
> : 
> : Seems to me that a test that tries to write, thinks it can and then
> : can’t should fail anyway.
> : 
> : Well, I don’t think there are very many tests that have this problem
> : anyway, so maybe I can examine them one-by-one and not 
> : introduce new failures...
> 
> You keep using the phrase "the test" in the context of (trying to) create 
> these directories ("userfiles" and "filestore") ... the "test CODE" isn't 
> making any choices about trying to write those files -- the choice is 
> being made by the "CoreContainer CODE".
> 
> These features were added with the explicit implementation choice to _TRY_ 
> to write the "usersfiles" (and/or "filestore") directory to "solr home" IF 
> POSSIBLE, and if so then enable a bunch of features -- if NOT then log a 
> WARNing and don't enable those features.
> 
> So what you're seeing here isn't an artifact/result of any particular 
> choices "a test" or "the test" makes -- it's a concious choice of the 
> developer who added this feature to solr.  These WARN messages that show 
> up in tests where the solr home dir isn't writable (which is actaully the 
> vast majority of tests because of how the test framework works) are the 
> same types of WARN messages that a "real" solr deployment might get if 
> their solr home dir isn't wriable (ie: maybe the use ${solr.data.dir} to 
> point to a diff drive).
> 
> 
> 
> : 
> : > On Aug 31, 2020, at 1:29 PM, Chris Hostetter <hossman_luc...@fucit.org> 
> wrote:
> : > 
> : > 
> : > Some tests "create" a new solr home dir and copy config files there, but 
> : > you'll see this type of WARN logging for any test that just uses the test 
> : > configs "in place" because of how the code is designed to _try_ and 
> create 
> : > a userfiles directory in the solr home if it's writable.
> : > 
> : > 
> : > : Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:25:17 -0400
> : > : From: Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> : > : Reply-To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> : > : To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> : > : Subject: Re: Annoying but harmless exceptions due to filepermissions 
> when
> : > :     running tests
> : > : 
> : > : Well, as Uwe and I discussed offline, he’s right and I’m wrong.
> : > : 
> : > : In CoreContainer [364] there’s code like this:
> : > : 
> : > : Path userFilesPath = return solrHome.resolve("userfiles"); // TODO make 
> configurable on cfg?
> : > : try {
> : > :   Files.createDirectories(userFilesPath); // does nothing if already 
> exists
> : > : } catch (Exception e) {
> : > :   log.warn("Unable to create [{}].  Features requiring this directory 
> may fail.", userFilesPath, e);
> : > : }
> : > : 
> : > : So I assumed it would happen on most every test, at least in cloud 
> mode. But when I tried to make it happen on a different test, there was no 
> exception.
> : > : 
> : > : I’ll have to poke some more to see what’s really happening…
> : > : 
> : > : Never Mind….
> : > : 
> : > : > On Aug 29, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Uwe Schindler <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote:
> : > : > 
> : > : > Hi,
> : > : > 
> : > : > this is a bug in the test! It should never ever modify files outside 
> its sandbox. It should not even modify files in build directory. It is fully 
> valid to reject those writes - has nothing to do with users, it's just 
> forbidden by the test framework. Modifying this file is harmful, as it may 
> affect later tests.
> : > : > 
> : > : > So the correct way is to copy those files to the solr container 
> running inside test's sandbox. That's one of the main advantages of the Test 
> sandbox: No write access anywhere outside the test, see policy file.
> : > : > 
> : > : > Uwe
> : > : > 
> : > : > -----
> : > : > Uwe Schindler
> : > : > Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen
> : > : > https://www.thetaphi.de
> : > : > eMail: u...@thetaphi.de
> : > : > 
> : > : >> -----Original Message-----
> : > : >> From: Erick Erickson <erickerick...@gmail.com>
> : > : >> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2020 2:54 PM
> : > : >> To: dev@lucene.apache.org
> : > : >> Subject: Annoying but harmless exceptions due to filepermissions 
> when running
> : > : >> tests
> : > : >> 
> : > : >> These exceptions are handled in the code and don’t affect running 
> tests, but
> : > : >> they can be a distraction when trying to figure out what’s causing a 
> failure.
> : > : >> When CoreContainer is being initialized, these two paths get 
> “Permission
> : > : >> Denied” errors since they try to create directories/files.
> : > : >> 
> : > : >> java.security.AccessControlException: access denied 
> ("java.io.FilePermission"
> : > : >> 
> "/Users/Erick/apache/solrJiras/master/solr/core/build/resources/test/solr/filest
> : > : >> ore" "write”)
> : > : >> 
> : > : >> java.security.AccessControlException: access denied 
> ("java.io.FilePermission"
> : > : >> 
> "/Users/Erick/apache/solrJiras/master/solr/core/build/resources/test/solr/userf
> : > : >> iles" "write”)
> : > : >> 
> : > : >> In both cases, the code logs a warning like "Features requiring this 
> directory
> : > : >> may fail”.
> : > : >> 
> : > : >> “build” is permitted this way, so I guess gradle runs as some other 
> user?
> : > : >> 
> : > : >> drwxr-xr-x  11 Erick  staff    352 Aug 28 09:30 build
> : > : >> 
> : > : >> Any hints on an easy way to avoid these? It’s not worth much effort 
> I don’t
> : > : >> think since they’re handled, but if it’s easy I’d like to not see 
> them.
> : > : >> 
> : > : >> 
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