We are talking specifically about 'cat', I think. Nothing else
accesses that directory:
https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/stream-source-reference.html#cat

Seems standalone-ready. Very file-centric in fact. Makes me wonder if
it is SolrCloud ready....

Regards,
   Alex.

On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 12:03, Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think some expressions are SolrCloud specific, but there are
> expressions that work in standalone
>
> e.g. https://paste.apache.org/zm3sw and https://paste.apache.org/vs35m
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:53 AM Eric Pugh
> <ep...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
> >
> > Can you do streaming expression in standalone solr?   I was under the 
> > impression that it required SolrCloud.
> >
> >
> > On Sep 25, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > It is not just a directory. There is a security feature that only
> > allows to read from several file locations (configurable in solr.xml).
> > Userfiles is part of default list, so whatever replacement is there
> > will need to be explicitly-named as well.
> >
> > Regards,
> >   Alex.
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 11:43, Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > You're left with the <solrhome>/filestore/ dir to put there what you want 
> > in standalone mode.
> >
> > That's fine by me as that's effectively what "userfiles" provides now.
> > The main difference I imagine is that the 'filestore' directory won't
> > exist at all in standalone? In that case standalone users will have to
> > know where to create the dir if they want to reference 'filestore'
> > files in their streaming expressions.  But that's not all that much
> > more to ask I guess.
> >
> > I'm curious - is the filestore unimplemented in standalone because no
> > one prioritized it, or is there a specific technical blocker?
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:24 AM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The "userfiles" thing is merely a directory.  There's no CRUD API on it.  
> > Even if the CRUD API of the file store isn't active in standalone -- I 
> > think that doesn't matter.  You're left with the <solrhome>/filestore/ dir 
> > to put there what you want in standalone mode.
> >
> > ~ David Smiley
> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 11:00 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya 
> > <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Standalone isn't supported.
> >
> > We need to transition away from the standalone mode and get rid of it 
> > completely.
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Sep, 2020, 7:50 pm Jason Gerlowski, <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't know much about the new package/file-store, but it does sound
> > like a good replacement for 'userfiles' (which Eric is right- is
> > pretty awkward to work with).
> >
> > My only concerns with using the filestore would be around its
> > availability.  Is it enabled by default (or will it be in an upcoming
> > release)?  Does it work in standalone as well as SolrCloud?  If the
> > answer to those questions are both "yes", then it makes sense to me as
> > a replacement on the face of things.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 9:39 AM Eric Pugh
> > <ep...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > +1.  I’ve found the user files really useful when doing things with 
> > streaming, but it’s also awkward to reach to put files into.
> >
> >
> > On Sep 25, 2020, at 8:47 AM, David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Yes.  And I think it's high time that coreRootDirectory default to 
> > <solrhome>/something (e.g. "cores")
> >
> > ~ David Smiley
> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 8:42 AM Alexandre Rafalovitch <arafa...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Would that file store also be under solr.home? Because if it is and
> > the user can upload core.property into it as well as other things that
> > core discovery will then load bypassing security....
> >
> > Regards,
> >  Alex.
> >
> > On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 at 08:32, David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm looking to see that we can deprecate "userfiles" and remove for 9.0
> >
> > Solr has a "userfiles" directory under Solr home that Jason added in some 
> > issue relating to streaming expressions accessing a local file.  I bet only 
> > a few of you have even heard of it.  I think the "File Store" that came 
> > along with the package manager obsoletes "userfiles".  If you have not 
> > heard of the file store either, I wouldn't be surprised -- it's new and 
> > it's name was changed from "package store" last minute, since it's general 
> > purpose, with "packages" being a directory at the root of the file store 
> > for packages.  It's documented as the "package store" (should be renamed) 
> > on the package manager internals doc: 
> > https://lucene.apache.org/solr/guide/8_6/package-manager-internals.html#package-store
> > However IMO it's worthy of its own doc page as it's a very useful new 
> > component of the Solr platform.  It can store "user files" (hence 
> > obsoleting the userfiles dir), ML models, or basically any file that's too 
> > large to put in ZK.  I'd be nice if SolrResourceLoader could resolve 
> > resources from it -- an issue for another day.  That would be another 
> > avenue of use separate from the configSet.  You can already upload single 
> > files to the file store :-)
> >
> > ~ David Smiley
> > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> >
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