Sounds good, Rob. Should I copy over the branch_8x to the solr repo until we have further clarity on the course of action to be taken with Solr releases?
On Sun, 21 Nov, 2021, 6:10 pm Robert Muir, <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nope, it isn't crazy. I am trying to ensure the backwards > compatibility that we have is on solid, sustainable footing before we > release a new version promising double the back compat. > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 7:37 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya > <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Solr doesn't have backward compatability tests, only Lucene has. > > > > That's why I proposed leaving the door open for a Solr 8.12 release > based on already released 8.11 Lucene and not releasing any further 8.x > minor version release of Lucene. > > > > As I said, if that's problematic to do on branch_8x of lucene-solr, then > we can do so in the solr repo. If some urgent action to nuke the branch is > to be taken, please give some time to explore alternatives that affect > Solr's developement. > > > > Holding up Lucene 9.0 release for removal of branch_8x is lunacy, not > the continued existence of this branch in the shared repo, since a future > course of action should be deliberated upon before nuking the branch. > > > > On Sun, 21 Nov, 2021, 5:34 pm Uwe Schindler, <u...@thetaphi.de> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I fully agree with Robert here. > >> > >> I originally sent the question about branch_8x because of this. Once we > released Lucene 9.0 wen can't release 8.12, because the index file format > will be brand marked as originating from 8.12 then, which 9.0 will refuse > to read. > >> > >> We can only release 8.11.x which is not allowed to have index format > changes and minor version numbers are not persisted. > >> > >> So -1 to release a 8.12 an time in future. If you still want one, hold > 9.0 release and add precautions for this. > >> > >> Imho. Let's stop releasing 8.12 or later for Lucene/Solr and just add > Bugfixes. This also applies to Solr. Later this is decoupled, so Solr > 9.1234 may use Lucene 10.4711. > >> > >> As said before: let's close branch 8.x and add protection to it in > GitHub. Anybox may merge Bugfixes directly from Solr or Lucene main I to > branch_8_11. I see no problem. Just no index changes! > >> > >> Uwe > >> > >> Am 21. November 2021 11:51:34 UTC schrieb Robert Muir <rcm...@gmail.com > >: > >>> > >>> I gave my technical justification: our backwards compatibility testing > >>> doesnt work this way. 9.0 can't have guaranteed back compat with > >>> versions coming in the future. This is lunacy. > >>> > >>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 6:30 AM Ishan Chattopadhyaya > >>> <ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#Veto > >>>> > >>>> "To prevent vetoes from being used capriciously, the voter must > provide with the veto a *technical justification* showing why the change is > bad (opens a security exposure, negatively affects performance, etc. ). A > veto without a justification is invalid and has no weight." > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, 21 Nov, 2021, 3:30 pm Robert Muir, <rcm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I think we should remove this branch. > >>>>> > >>>>> personally, i'll probably -1 any commit to it. I'll see if i can > >>>>> automate such an email response with a gmail rule. > >>>>> > >>>>> we already released lucene 9.0, we can't change backwards > >>>>> compatibility for some 8.12, same old story, lets move on people. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 9:29 AM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Uwe brought up the question on a the vote thread: we are not going > to do a 8.12 release, so what should we do of branch_8x? > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >>>>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >>> > >> -- > >> Uwe Schindler > >> Achterdiek 19, 28357 Bremen > >> https://www.thetaphi.de >
