Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hallo Daniel,
> Some experiments fail. That's why they are called experiments. Try to > think of it as a learning experience. You have to try something > out. yes, but you have to stop and think for a while after the few not so successful experiments. > Some experiments succeed,and others don't. The best we can do is (1) > learn from past experience and (2) try again. :-) Try to think like user outside this community ... Lot of sites ... No content ... > I wasn't really talking about globalization. I see some benefits in > minimizing the number of URLs. If there are a lot of different URLs to > keep track of, it becomes difficult. But of course, there are also > many other reasons why you might want to use a different server. But who cares about number of URLs? Are you going to create one web page with all 'promotion' sites for all languages? Something like MarCons page? Are you expecting Czech (or any other) people to look at this page to find where is the 'Czech' promotion site? These people know this address very well from local sources, web sites. Do you think people are doing this for MarCon? No, the NLC leader is well known and is treated as MarCon ... You're looking at this in the whole world scope. Try to leave this position and think like normal user in one country. They don't care about other URLs over the whole world ... They are not reading global mailing lists, ... Simply - they don't care ... > > who will have last word when there will be problem (two sites fighting for > > the cs.spreadopenoffice.org)? > > I think that the CZ-NL project should decide. Why this project should communicate with spreadopenoffice.org domain owner when they already have (or will have) their own site and the cs.spreadopenoffice.org will point to this site? I know what's your point, but how many people will use the cs.spreadopenoffice.org site to access Czech promotion site? Nobody or very small number of people. It's useful for you, when you don't know the promotion site address as a foreigner, but you don't speak Czech, so it's not for you. Czech people will try OO.o.cz, OpenOffice.cz or any other sites (even non-existent sites) and if everything fails, www.openoffice.org is the winner. > How about, if 'cz.spreadopenoffice.org' points straight to > 'prejdente.openoffice.cz' ? And the CZ site (yours) could have > a button that says "English", and it could point to > 'en.spreadopenoffice.org' Yes, but read paragraph above ... What have to be done is this - each promotion site (any domain) should have button, text, for the English speaking visitors and link to the www.spreadopenoffice.org. Like this site http://firefox.czilla.cz/ (bottom right side is for the English visitors). > language can have a website that makes sense in their language, and > yet, it is easy to jump from one to the other. I just like that idea > because it allows each one to exchange ideas and colaborate a bit. And > I'm a big fan of cross-language colaboration. Try it, but I'm still pessimist that there will be more problems then benefits. > Well, we're discussing it right now. I'm glad for that. Thank you for > sharing your thoughts. You're welcome ;-) This discussion is good, but is about not so important points. The most important points are: - site map - content of each page, functionality (OS detection, ...) After this, there can be a discussion about CMS, visual design. When this will be ready, implemented, NLC projects can be invited to discuss $LANG.spread... possibility. Start with this and if this will be good enough, you'll see that people will come without pushing. And I'm not sure if there is a need for spreadopenoffice.org site, domain. IMHO the best solution is to - put the promotion site at www.openoffice.org and www move to the project.openoffice.org domain. Developer will use any address (like eis.services.openoffice.org, ...), but the end user is not willing to learn these horrible URLs. Regards, Robert -- Robert Vojta http://blog.vojta.name/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]