On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 15:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote: > Ian Lynch wrote: > > ...Here are a few. > > Perceived to be controlled by Sun > > Yes, however, keep in mind that much of that perception has been > cultivated through several years of attacks from MS both directly and > through proxy. Case in point recent attempts to inject tainted code, or > the ODF=OOo=Sun meme that MSFTers were pounding a few years ago > > > Massive code base difficult to learn > > Yes. Needs to become more modular, which may in turn address your > outstanding wish for smaller, faster OOo > > > No progression routes for young people to learn to become developers > > There are also high barriers to entry even to otherwise simple > activities like testing / QA and localization.
I agree with that. That is more the area where INGOTs are targeted as realistically the Gold INGOT projects are not likely to be coding - maybe later when we develop a Platinum INGOT and beyond but that is a much smaller market and is not sustainable on current resources. It takes time to move the way people work - starting sooner just means the outcome happens sooner. > > Weak incentives to become a developer > > No great effort to keep volunteers that have any different views from > > the project controllers. > > Yes, but that was also when the project was more or less in isolation. > Nowadays, you do have to be concerned about hijacking of the codebase by > funded "volunteers" Is that good or bad :-) > > Until there is a systematic strategy to tackle these issues... > > So yes, a strategy is needed. That's probably something that can be > started at the OOo conference in Beijing. I hope so, I want OOo to succeed and get stronger. I'm in Malaysia next week at their Government Open Source conference that happens to clash with the OOo Conference. From what I read there is a refreshing difference in the government attitude to ICT there compared to many so called "developed" nations. > > Personally, having committed time and money to OOo in the past, this is > > a significant reason why I now devote little time to the project. ROI is > > too low and I can be far more effective in other aspects of the free > > software movement. I know many previously committed volunteers that feel > > the same way. > > Same here. > > Regards > -Lars -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications A new approach to assessment for learning www.theINGOTs.org - 01827 305940 You have received this email from the following company: The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]