Hi all,
Interesting move in the discussion that Leo (below, hi Leo ;-) ) and
Christine and Bernard in other mails write:
Can we use less (environmental) resources and yet have successful
community work and growth with conferences (global, regional, virtual).
Maybe we should start a contest where two teams offer a plan, so that we
can compare targets/estimated effects on both areas: community and
environment :-)
What I don't like when thinking about effects for our community, it that
I have no good oversight of how the native language communities in all
countries, continents thrive. I know some big differences here in
western Europe. But how is the situation exactly in most countries?
Knowing this, makes that we can better think about regional, virtual ...
goals we set for conferences etc.
Can others help with this? Does such (rather fine grained) knowledge
exist in the NLC community?
Regards,
Cor
Leo Moons wrote (18-12-09 00:12)
Hello all,
Personnally, I am very much in favour of having a face to face OOo
Conference every year. It is giving so much enthousiam and warmth to
continue our goals, which I do not believe can be spread in a virtual
environment. I fully understand that people from the other side of the
globe are missing this and the best we can offer might be a virtual
conference or a Regicon. Or make the combination of a virtual conference
and a face to face conference. I felt sad that I could not join the
conference in Beijing.
Fully agree that we should try and safe the planet and limit our carbon
footprint but we could do this also by carpooling to the conference site
and have fun while under way.
Best regards
Leo
Cor Nouws schreef:
Hi Florian,
Florian Effenberger wrote (17-12-09 09:32)
I just don't think it makes much sense to give up or to limit our so
successful and even more important conference for environmental
purposes. If we start that way, we'd have to change a lot of things:
How many mirrors do we need, how many buildbots do we run? Does
CollabNet use green IT? Do we really need so many hosts and services?
Shall we attend trade shows at all, as that also is bad for the
environment? Shall we still offer OpenOffice.org on DVD, this is also
bad for the environment?
Well, I see sings that you are going to start to understand it :-)
There are indeed a lot of areas in which we can contribute a bit.
Now don't think that I am a person that is sitting in the cold and
dark at home .. I even do have a car ;-) But if it is possible, I take
the bike and/or train. The electricity we buy, is from sun, wind water
for about ten years already. And my family has a pretty environmental
friendly diet.
And with our OOo group, on a large fair few years ago, we did not
spread 10.000 CD's, with a version that would be old in a few weeks by
then, but we spread 10.000 interesting, catchy folders, that still are
valid.
Saying the environment is important, but not starting to change, is
old age. There are numerous movies and tv-productions pointing out
rather sharp (and painful), what we are acting not so smart, and how
that affects the environment, other people, other livings and ourself
and our children.
Did anyone say that we have to skip all OOoCons? That we should stop
running a lot of tests on our dev-builds? No.
But probably there are some council members interested in the kind of
energy used by the servers ;-)
Again, please don't think I'm ignorant - I really see your point. I
just don't share your view that we should limit down the conference.
It would be a massive negative aspect for our community if we did so,
IMHO.
It is a change. Show that we are really people of this age. Won't that
attract people?
And as written: we can prove that we can do a very good job on the one
hand and improve for the world around us on the other hand. Don't
forget that in the end all is one ...
Kindest regards,
Cor
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