Hi Florian,

Florian Effenberger wrote (17-12-09 07:59)
Hi John,

But would you think the same if you lived in New Zealand - or Canada - or
Vietnam?

I enjoy OOoCons very much, meeting old friends, and making new ones. I
don't know how effective they are for attracting new community members. A
team needs to be already well established and successful to make a
successful bid for an OOoCon. We have never held an OOoCon in North
America, where our presence is comparatively weak.

I don't know whether a virtual OOoCon would be more successful in building
the community. It would certainly cause less damage to the planet.

I think this is a valuable discussion, and would encourage others to join in!

I really see the problems, and I know that "we Europeans" are in a quite comfortable situation, and others have it much harder to join us.

We can work on this, we can improve the situation -- either by getting more funding, or by better integrating a virtual element into our conferences: thinking of live streams, participation via Skype or IRC, and such.

However, I think it does help no one if we cancel our "real life conferences". Folks from New Zealand, Canada or Vietnam won't meet people face to face nontheless, and the others would lose a great ability to meet with friends and community.

I also do know that it cost a lot of effort -- time, money -- to run an OOoCon, and we can also see if we can improve things on this end. However, I'm still not convinced at all that cancelling OOoCon or moving it to a two-year rhythm helps anyone. I doubt many people would attend a virtual conference at all, and we'd lose a great way of communication.

Again, we can enhance the current "real life" conferences with some more virtual elements, or have a separate virtual OOoCon (I favor the first variant), but I'm against having a two-year scheme.

This is a look to the situation from perspective of our success, how good our conferences are, how important they are. A different perspective is to include environmental factors in the picture. So that the question would be: how can we still do our work in a good manner, but with less costs for the environment (which we still not really feel in our spendings - not yet). The interesting thing is, that this question, brought up by John, also makes us aware of existing bottle necks etc. that maybe can addressed with a different approach as well.
So could we make a win win of it? Yes we can!

Regards,
Cor


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