Hi Charles,
I'm not Stefan, but I will try to answer:
You and some other made a quite clear statement and move. I acknowledge
the that I receiced that your way is not longer my way. I'm sorry about
this but I accept your decision say farewell. Now you're requesting a
dialog started by me and I'm confused. If things have changed on your
side, please let me know.
Martin
Am 06.10.2010 19:39, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
Hello Stefan,
Le Wed, 06 Oct 2010 19:09:02 +0200,
Martin Hollmichel<m...@openoffice.org> a écrit :
Gi,
Am 06.10.2010 18:19, schrieb Charles-H. Schulz:
Hello Martin,
Le Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:36:50 +0200,
Martin Hollmichel<m...@openoffice.org> a écrit :
Am 06.10.2010 12:08, schrieb Florian Effenberger:
Hi Peter,
Peter Junge wrote on 2010-10-05 13.34:
despite times of troubles, I'm planning to throw a party for
OOo's 10th birthday as part of the monthly meeting of the
Beijing Linux User Group on October 12th. Accordingly, I would
like to request a subsidy of up to 150 Euro on the expenses of
the OOo Marketing Project budget to support this little event.
I'm happy to agree to this funding. However, given the current
things going on. I am not sure if I am still eligible for granting
money from the budget.
Hmm, the same might apply for other leading member of the other
project which had so far also a seat in the community council
(http://council.openoffice.org)., this may the opportunity for
others to step into this role. Anyhow, the remaing members will
look into this request asap,
If I may Martin: I don't see why we should leave just now; and I
don't remember you moving so fast for any fork there ever was on
OpenOffice.org
sorry, I don't remember any community fork driven by a member of the
community council. I don't see a conflict of interest if a community
member who decides to contribute to both: the fork and it's parent.
But Stefan, here's what's really appalling: all the members of the CC
who do not work for Oracle choose to go, and you call that a fork, file
and rank it in the fork category as if everything was normal. That is a
serious lack of...interest/pedagogy/feeling/ and many other things.
On the other hand, I'm not saying that I and others are going to
continue at the CC as if nothing has ever happened. I/we will leave,
but please do yourself a favour, don't act as if you're kicking us out,
please do favour the dialogue first.
but I don't think that this applies for leaders of the different
project and no way claiming that you can have a leading role for both
projects. for me this a classic example for a conflict of interest.
Also, I would understand this as a gesture by Oracle to stop the
dialogue as it is now. Please advise.
sorry, must be my German mentality: ("Bestimmte Sachen tut man
einfach nicht, auch wenn sie juristisch erlaubt sind. Das hat was mit
Anstand zu tun") Some thing you don't do, even if there are legally
allowed. It's a matter of personal integrity. In Germany it is also
good pratice, when in doubt of a conflict of interest, that you
inform your partners in advance and ask for their opinion,
Conflict of interests are indeed not something we wish for. But I
disagree that my personal integrity or the one of the TDF members are
at stake here: our community is so disfunctional and so broken (before
TDF) that we knew we had no option but going forward. German mentality
as well: fix everything that's broken, and don't let it linger .
Best,
Charles.
But I'm looking forward what others will say about this.
best,
Charles.
Martin
Martin
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