Guys,
I am sure that a discussion in "neutral territory" can still mean a very 
transparent and productive conversation too.

Louis,
Which forum did you have in mind?

Gian


On Wed 25/05/11 16:55 , Louis Suarez-Potts lsuarezpo...@gmail.com sent:
> There are many good reasons to have any discussion as proposed by the
> TDF—Florian and Sophie—on a neutral ground. I've mentioned the
> compelling ones. 
> And I also think we need to proceed very carefully here. Not only for
> "community" reasons but also because a lot is at stake beyond our narrow
> concerns.
> Louis
> 
> 
> On 2011-05-25, at 10:29 , Sophie wrote:
> 
> > Hi Florian, all,
> > On 25/05/2011 17:00, Florian Effenberger
> wrote:>> Hi Louis,
> >> 
> >> Louis Suarez-Potts wrote on 2011-05-25
> 14.33:>>> Thanks, Florian for the long message
> :-)>>> But, can I request that we have such advocations
> (not sure that's a>>> word) presented in a more neutral space? My
> reasoning, besides the>>> obvious, that this is OOo-land, has to do with
> simply having a>>> suitable forum for what is likely to be a
> protracted and contentious>>> discussion, and that sort of thing calls out for
> neutrality.>>> 
> >>> I also tend to think that having focused and if
> possible in-person>>> meetings is immensely helpful.
> >> 
> >> as the topic was raised on this public mailing
> list, and as it concerns>> the OpenOffice.org Community, I thought it is
> indeed the right approach>> to reply publically to the discussion.
> >> 
> >> The question I raised was not rhetorical. I don't
> want to say "take TDF>> as is", but I am open to feedback and criticism.
> If there is anything>> that needs to be changed or improved, any
> criticism that is justified, I>> definitely will not ignore it, but rather 
> try to
> work on it and improve>> things. However, I will also take position to
> criticism that from my>> point of view is simply not justified, and I
> think, that combination is>> a good basis for a discussion.
> >> 
> >> So, again, my question to all of the
> OpenOffice.org community: Is there>> any particular reason on why working 
> together,
> jointly, united, is not>> possible? Is there any justified reason on why
> working under the>> umbrella of a different foundation, or even
> setting up another>> foundation in parallel, makes sense?
> >> 
> >> I am open to discussion on any channel -- and
> although I think that the>> OpenOffice.org mailing lists are indeed the right
> channel to discuss the>> future of the OpenOffice.org community, I am happy
> to discuss on any>> other channel. Needless to say, I prefer openness
> and transparency,>> whereever possible.
> > 
> > And of course, I'll support you in this discussion
> and completely second your point of view and your position here. In the
> same way, I would be happy to discuss further with the OpenOffice.org
> community what can be the best done to join both.> 
> >> 
> >> Face to face meetings are of course an option, but
> it will exclude those>> who cannot participate, so why not initiate the
> discussion on the list>> here as I did?
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > Kind regards
> > Sophie
> > 
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