I can handle that, but not before the weekend. Jason, does that conflict with your schedule for the release?
Perhaps we just say that we drop the support for old Windows versions with 3.3.0 and do the actual work that removes the support from the bat files in the next minor release? I would imagine that no one out there cares for Windows 98/ME anyway ;-). Am Donnerstag, 26. Februar 2015 schrieb Anders Hammar : > On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Stephen Connolly < > [email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 26, 2015, Anders Hammar <[email protected] > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > One thing we could do to make stuff easier around these .bat scripts > is > > > to > > > > drop support for this 4NT shell and Windows versions that are not > based > > > on > > > > NT (i.e. Windows 9x / ME). > > > > > > > > > Well, as Maven 3.2+ requires a minimum of JDK 1.6 there is no reason to > > > support anything that JDK 1.6 doesn't run on. > > > > > > If we are calling this 3.3.0 we can just say we have dropped win 9x/Me > > support and the 4NT alternative command interpreter > > > Yes. We should probably clearly state what we support in the System > Requirements (both on-line and in distro). > And a JIRA ticket to go with this is good for the release notes. > > /Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't find any info about Oracle JDK 1.6, but Oracle JDK 1.7 > requires a > > > minimum of Windows Vista [1]. > > > > > > I couldn't find any info on openJDK's requirements. > > > > > > IBM J9 JDK 6 seems to require a minimum of Windows XP SP3 [2]. > > > > > > [1] http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/config-417990.html > > > [2] > > > > > > > > > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/#!/SSYKE2_6.0.0/com.ibm.java.doc.60_26/vm626/GenericWrapper/hardwareandsoftwarerequirements.html > > > > > > /Anders > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-02-25 19:38 GMT+01:00 Jason van Zyl <[email protected] > <javascript:;> > > <javascript:;> > > > >: > > > > > > > > > Awesome, thanks! > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Andreas Gudian < > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm stuck with a windows box and I can give it a try... > > > > > > > > > > > > .bat-scripting is not really a joy, but what's in the patch > should > > be > > > > > > translatable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Andreas > > > > > > > > > > > > 2015-02-25 17:01 GMT+01:00 Igor Fedorenko <[email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;>>: > > > > > > > > > > > >> You can see actual diff to mvn shell script in [1], but the > > changes > > > > was > > > > > >> basically two-fold. First, find nearest parent directory that > > > contains > > > > > >> .mvn/ subdirectory. This parent is considered "true" > multi-module > > > > > >> project root (MNG-1958). Second, if .mvn/java.config file is > > present > > > > > >> immediately under the true multimodule project root, use its > > content > > > > as > > > > > >> java invocation parameters, i.e. similar to $MAVEN_OPTS > > environment > > > > > >> variable. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I don't know enough about Windows scripting to make similar > change > > > to > > > > > >> mvn.bat and mvnDebug.bat batch files. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> [1] > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=maven.git;a=commit;h= > > > > > >> 8ed9a1caa8890773b45c6c408a4e40acf4f4b0fd > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > >> Igor > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On 2015-02-25 9:56, Robert Patrick wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> What exactly is the problem that Igor ran into that limits his > > > > solution > > > > > >>> to Unix-only? Knowing this would help people determine what > the > > > > level > > > > > of > > > > > >>> effort needed to solve the problem. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > >>> Robert Patrick <[email protected] <javascript:;> > <javascript:;>> > > > > > >>> VP, Oracle Corporation > > > > > >>> 7460 Warren Pkwy, Ste. 300 Office: +1.972.963.2872 > > > > > >>> Frisco, TX 75034, USA Mobile: +1.469.556.9450 > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Professional Oracle WebLogic Server > > > > > >>> by Robert Patrick, Gregory Nyberg, and Philip Aston > > > > > >>> with Josh Bregman and Paul Done > > > > > >>> Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ > > > > > >>> Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >>> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;> > <javascript:;>] > > > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:40 AM > > > > > >>> To: Maven Developers List > > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Maven 3.2.6 > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Arnaud Héritier < > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I had a quick look at the changeling and I'm +1 for a 3.3.0 > with > > > > > >>>> improvements like the toolchain integration and few others I'm > > far > > > > > >>>> from the project and won't veto anything as I have no time for > > it > > > > but > > > > > >>>> I don't understand why > http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG-5767 > > > was > > > > > >>>> integrated without a windows support ? For me it is everything > > or > > > > > >>>> nothing. > > > > > >>>> Noone could help Igor on this ? > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> It would be great if someone would help, but it is still a step > > > > > forward. > > > > > >>> For projects that require this and document specific > requirements > > > it > > > > > will > > > > > >>> just work for non-Windows users. Say the project needs 8gb to > run > > > > > >>> correctly: in most cases no one reads the documentation they > run > > > the > > > > > build > > > > > >>> and it fails. Then they go read something and figure it out and > > it > > > > > works. > > > > > >>> We've at least made it work for some people. If there isn't a > > > single > > > > > Maven > > > > > >>> committer who uses Windows who can add the same capabilities or > > we > > > > > can't > > > > > >>> find a contributor I don't think it should stop the feature for > > > going > > > > > in > > > > > >>> for the people it can benefit. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Igor and I don't use Windows regularly, don't know Windows, > don't > > > > want > > > > > to > > > > > >>> know Windows and none of our customers use Windows. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> It's overall a net improvement. For me it's a about gradual > > > > > improvement. > > > > > >>> But I've asked on Twitter if there are any Windows users that > can > > > > help. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Many months/years ago the integration of colors in logs output > > was > > > > > >>>> rejected in a part because we wasn't confident in the windows > > > > support > > > > > ... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> I don't think that was the issue. The issue was us not being > able > > > the > > > > > >>> decide on an underlying logging framework. I've seen JANSI > > working > > > > > fine on > > > > > >>> Windows for years. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> My 2 cents. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Mark Derricutt < > > [email protected] <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;>> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 4:06, Karl Heinz Marbaise wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> based on the list of changes i would suggest to make a 3.3.0 > > > > instead > > > > > >>>>>> of > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>> 3.2.6....to make clear something is introduced.... > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> +1 on 3.3.0 here. Bring on the changes! > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> Mark > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> -- > > > > > >>>>> Mark Derricutt > > > > > >>>>> http://www.theoryinpractice.net > > > > > >>>>> http://www.chaliceofblood.net > > > > > >>>>> http://plus.google.com/+MarkDerricutt > > > > > >>>>> http://twitter.com/talios > > > > > >>>>> http://facebook.com/mderricutt > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> -- > > > > > >>>> ----- > > > > > >>>> Arnaud Héritier > > > > > >>>> http://aheritier.net > > > > > >>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com Twitter/Skype : > aheritier > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Jason > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>> Jason van Zyl > > > > > >>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > > > > > >>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > > > > > >>> http://twitter.com/takari_io > > > > > >>> --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete > > examples. > > > > > >>> Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper > > without > > > > > >>> actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No > one > > > is > > > > > that > > > > > >>> smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by > > > looking > > > > > at > > > > > >>> the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples > > you > > > > > look at, > > > > > >>> the more general your framework will be. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving > > Frameworks > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;> For > > > > > additional > > > > > >>> commands, e-mail: [email protected] <javascript:;> > <javascript:;> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Jason van Zyl > > > > > Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > > > > > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > > > > > http://twitter.com/takari_io > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Lastly, "Impossible." The lamest of the lame excuses! Difficult > > maybe, > > > or > > > > > impractical, or too expensive, but rarely is anything impossible. > > > > > > > > > > -- Yvon Chouinard, Let my People Go Surfing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > <javascript:;> > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my phone > > >
