Igor,

  I just discover your thread "logging during multithreaded builds"
  It's sad that it didn't move forward.
  I understand that https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-5836 was also
a limitation to provide the logging configuration from the extension.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Igor Fedorenko <[email protected]> wrote:

> It is already possible to implement advanced logging as an extension.
> This was what I did when my offer to provide multi-threaded logging
> support in the core was turned down on this list few months ago. So at
> this point the discussion/decision is purely political.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Igor
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016, at 08:53 PM, Nick Stolwijk wrote:
> > This isn't a mail to convince anyone between Log4J2 or Logback.
> >
> > I have updated my Maven installation with Log4J2, instead of the default,
> > which worked fine.
> >
> > I missed one thing and I hope with different log implementations we still
> > could do this "right". Maven has a nice command line parameter to give
> > out
> > extra logging, the "-X" parameter. With the Log4J2 in place, this logging
> > parameter didn't work. I have to change the logging configuration to
> > include DEBUG logging. Is there a way to print out the logging, without
> > regard to the logging framework, to include the debug information when
> > given the "-X" parameter?
> >
> > I think it is very valuable to get extra logging without touching any
> > configuration files.
> >
> > With regards,
> >
> > Nick Stolwijk
> >
> > ~~~ Try to leave this world a little better than you found it and, when
> > your turn comes to die, you can die happy in feeling that at any rate you
> > have not wasted your time but have done your best ~~~
> >
> > Lord Baden-Powell
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I’ve no issue with the fix to make any implementation to work, just the
> > > merging of the log4j2 branch in general.
> > >
> > > > On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:20 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Jason,
> > > >
> > > > I really don’t care which logging framework Maven uses. There isn’t
> > > going to be much difference between Logback and Log4j 2 in a batch
> process
> > > like Maven, although asynchronous loggers might speed up larger builds
> > > somewhat.
> > > >
> > > > However, these comparisons are still incorrect. Log4j is using the
> ASF’s
> > > git repository and hasn’t really integrated pull requests from github
> so
> > > you are comparing apples and oranges. If you look at the changes.xml
> file
> > > you will see 250 due-to attributions, some of which include committers
> but
> > > most of which are not. Just in the latest release, 2.5, there were
> > > contributions from 13 individuals outside of the ASF and in the 2.4
> release
> > > there were contributions from more than 20. If Logback has only had
> > > contributions from 70+ non-committers since they moved to git, then
> Log4j
> > > is easily winning that metric.
> > > >
> > > > That said, I don’t use Maven for how cool its logging framework is.
> > > However, Gary’s original complaint about an unsupported SLF4J binding
> seems
> > > like it should be addressed. Why can’t a user use their own custom
> SLF4J
> > > implementation?
> > > >
> > > > Ralph
> > > >
> > > >> On Jan 6, 2016, at 3:49 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:46 PM, Paul Benedict <[email protected]
> > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jason, I am sorry but to disagree with you. Your statistics are
> still
> > > not
> > > >>> telling a full story. I can glance at the commit graphs of these 76
> > > logback
> > > >>> contributors rather quickly to see really how "diverse" this
> community
> > > is.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> * 35 (~45%) only ever made 1 contribution
> > > >>> * 18 (~25%) have only ever made 2 contributions
> > > >>> * 16 (~20%) have between 3-10 contributions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> This is still awesome. I would love to have 35 contributors making
> one
> > > change. It all adds up.
> > > >>
> > > >>> That leaves only 7 logback contributors (~10%) who actually do
> > > something.
> > > >>> And of those 7, only 4 committed something in 2015 ... and Cecki
> is the
> > > >>> leader by far. It's clearly a very visible one man show with sparse
> > > >>> contributions from others.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Based on these numbers, I think Log4J2 has the better community
> > > involvement.
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> Everyone will interpret numbers as they wish but it’s a simple thing
> > > even to make one change in an open source project. 99% of people never
> do
> > > so to have that number of people make one or two changes is a
> significant
> > > thing.
> > > >>
> > > >>> Cheers,
> > > >>> Paul
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> A contributor on that page is not a comparison of committers vs
> not.
> > > >>>> People who have made pull requests to Maven are listed as
> > > contributors.
> > > >>>> Just as they would for Log4J2. A measure, albeit one, of the
> overall
> > > >>>> diversity of contribution.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Paul Benedict <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I am writing regarding this statement: "Ceki may do more commits
> but
> > > it’s
> > > >>>>> certainly not a one man show. 76 contributors for Logback and 8
> > > >>>>> contributors for Log4J2."
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The numbers in themselves do not tell a full story. It's in
> > > appropriate
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>>> conclude that since 76 > 8, therefore logback is a better choice.
> > > The 8
> > > >>>>> contributors in Log4J2 have been voted in according to Apache
> bylaws.
> > > >>>>> Conversely, there aren't any bylaws for logback; the logback
> Github
> > > >>>> project
> > > >>>>> owner can freely grant commit privileges at will ... and
> evidently,
> > > they
> > > >>>>> do! So the bar for committer rights is much (much) lower than at
> > > Apache.
> > > >>>> I
> > > >>>>> don't think the above comparison is fair toward log4j2.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>> Paul
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Arnaud Héritier <
> [email protected]>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> great, more constructive feedback :-)
> > > >>>>>>> Thanks Jason
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Both projects are well known and widely used even if log4j v2
> is
> > > >>>> younger
> > > >>>>>>> with less downloads such figures are not really representative
> > > with all
> > > >>>>>>> caches/repositories managers I think.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I don’t have a single peer that uses Log4j2 and that’s
> important to
> > > me.
> > > >>>> I
> > > >>>>>> do not believe Log4J2 is well known or widely use. I think 3
> years
> > > of
> > > >>>>>> releases is fairly representative in that Logback is getting
> close
> > > to
> > > >>>> the
> > > >>>>>> Log4J incoming edge count and if you remove all the incoming
> edges
> > > from
> > > >>>>>> Apache there are not a lot of users.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> About logback vs log4j I have really no real preference
> technically
> > > >>>>>>> speaking (I had both branches working in the past and used
> them a
> > > lot
> > > >>>> in
> > > >>>>>> my
> > > >>>>>>> professional life -
> > > http://www.aheritier.net/united-colors-of-maven/).
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> In term of community, Log4J is in our apache community and we
> have
> > > few
> > > >>>>>>> active committers arround. On Logback side even if I really
> > > appreciate
> > > >>>>>> Ceki
> > > >>>>>>> I'm always afraid about this one-man show project. (and Ceki
> isn't
> > > >>>>>> perfect
> > > >>>>>>> too when we see the nightmare of slf4j-api 1.5+
> incompatibilities
> > > we
> > > >>>>>> always
> > > >>>>>>> have in 2016 !!).
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Ceki may do more commits but it’s certainly not a one man show.
> 76
> > > >>>>>> contributors for Logback and 8 contributors for Log4J2. It’s
> stable
> > > and
> > > >>>>>> mature at this point with 54 releases versus 33 for Log4J2. I
> don’t
> > > >>>> think
> > > >>>>>> any person responsible for picking a package for logging would
> get
> > > much
> > > >>>>>> support in their organization for Log4J2, as the data would
> > > suggest. I
> > > >>>>>> think with few contributors and usage it would likely be deemed
> a
> > > less
> > > >>>> wise
> > > >>>>>> choice than Logback and possibly a risk. There are also lots of
> > > Apache
> > > >>>>>> projects that use Logback. I think pragmatism is a factor in
> all the
> > > >>>> other
> > > >>>>>> projects at Apache who selected Logback. Being at Apache
> obviously
> > > >>>> wasn’t
> > > >>>>>> the determining criterion and it shouldn’t be.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I agree that we are just talking about a logging implementation
> > > but you
> > > >>>>>> saw
> > > >>>>>>> what it gave for eclipse/aether ….
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I’m not sure what your point is here. No one worked on any of
> the
> > > parts,
> > > >>>>>> ever, whether here or at Eclipse. I doubt anyone will work on it
> > > when it
> > > >>>>>> comes back. So I’m not sure what analogy you’re trying to make.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I'm clearly not enough involved enough in the project to try to
> > > >>>> convince
> > > >>>>>>> anyone about a choice to do but I can just say that not having
> a
> > > >>>>>> colorized
> > > >>>>>>> console in 2016 is .... irritating.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> For the problem reported by Gary I think that applying the fix
> in
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
> maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties
> > > >>>>>>> (
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/8cddea291c279130d437bcdf3337f16296558530
> > > >>>>>>> )
> > > >>>>>>> is safe to be back-ported in master. It is just that
> > > >>>>>>> org.slf4j.helpers.Log4jLoggerFactorywas for Log4J 1 AFAIU and
> now
> > > that
> > > >>>>>>> Log4J2 is release/stabilized there is a new one :
> > > >>>>>>> org.apache.logging.slf4j.Log4jLoggerFactory
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> If I asked Ceki for help I’d get it immediately also. Who isn’t
> > > going to
> > > >>>>>> help there to get their library bundled with Maven?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> For the replacement of the implementation and activate colors I
> > > prefer
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>>>>> let active committers decide of what they are doing (I imagine
> > > that for
> > > >>>>>> any
> > > >>>>>>> choice they are doing it doesn't avoid you to use another one
> in
> > > your
> > > >>>> own
> > > >>>>>>> distribution ?
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I would prefer log4j2 but clearly I never merged it because of
> the
> > > >>>> slf4j
> > > >>>>>>> conflict that I don't understand (but I didn't spend a lot of
> time
> > > on
> > > >>>> it)
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> To me the most important factor is usage, of course you need
> some
> > > >>>>>> threshold of developers so that people are working on it but
> even
> > > there
> > > >>>> I’d
> > > >>>>>> say it’s pretty sparse in Log4J2. But with widespread usage
> comes
> > > >>>>>> examination, issue submissions, pull requests and ultimately
> more
> > > people
> > > >>>>>> that contribute and that’s clearly the case with Logback. I
> don’t
> > > see
> > > >>>> how
> > > >>>>>> you can logically refute that and see Log4J2 a better choice
> > > because of
> > > >>>>>> what organization it’s developed within? Logback has a
> community it
> > > just
> > > >>>>>> doesn’t happen to be here, and Ceki's not some random guy. He
> also
> > > has a
> > > >>>>>> long track record of open source dedication and contribution.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Cheers
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:46 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> These are the numbers I arrived at, happy to run them with
> > > different
> > > >>>>>>>> coordinates but thought these were representative:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc', 'log4j:log4j').inE.count()
> > > >>>>>>>> ==>84570
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc',
> 'ch.qos.logback:logback-classic').inE.count()
> > > >>>>>>>> ==>62389
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> gremlin> g.V('vc',
> > > 'org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-core').inE.count()
> > > >>>>>>>> ==>3134
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> These are incoming edges across all versions of said
> coordinate.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> As we said previously when the the question arose again there
> > > would
> > > >>>> be
> > > >>>>>> a
> > > >>>>>>>> discussion. You may not remember, but I expect there to be a
> > > >>>> discussion.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> I have built a graph of Maven Central to analyze the rank
> (count
> > > of
> > > >>>> all
> > > >>>>>>>> incoming edges) for Log4J2 and Logback and it is clear from
> those
> > > >>>>>> numbers
> > > >>>>>>>> that everyone has gone from Log4J to Logback. What has
> happened, I
> > > >>>>>> believe
> > > >>>>>>>> from the numbers, is that the community followed the founder
> of
> > > the
> > > >>>>>> project
> > > >>>>>>>> and not the owner project in pretty much the exact same way
> users
> > > went
> > > >>>>>> with
> > > >>>>>>>> Jenkins and not Hudson. Anyone is happy to take the graph and
> > > verify
> > > >>>>>> this
> > > >>>>>>>> themselves, or generate their own data from the machine that
> is
> > > >>>> housing
> > > >>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>> copy of Maven Central at Google.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Additionally Igor has an implementation for logging during
> > > concurrent
> > > >>>>>>>> builds based on Logback that I would really like to use, and
> the
> > > color
> > > >>>>>>>> logging is also easy with Logback. I do not want to use
> something
> > > that
> > > >>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>> community at large has not adopted.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Again, anyone is welcome to the code and/or the data if they
> > > want to
> > > >>>>>>>> verify this themselves.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> I also am not interested in a debate so if we disagree then
> just
> > > >>>> leave
> > > >>>>>>>> the simple implementation in place. I’m not philosophically
> > > motivated
> > > >>>>>> much
> > > >>>>>>>> here in these discussions but I’m vehemently opposed to
> > > integrating
> > > >>>>>> Log4J2.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Arnaud Héritier <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for this valuable comment Jason :(
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Jason van Zyl <
> [email protected]>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> -1
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Do not merge this branch.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:05 AM, Tibor Digana <
> > > [email protected]>
> > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Arnaud,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you plan a Release Version to merge this branch o
> master in
> > > >>>>>> Maven?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:18 AM, Arnaud Héritier [via
> Maven] <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because only 2.4 was available when I updated this
> > > feature
> > > >>>>>>>> branch
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> few
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> months ago.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mardi 5 janvier 2016, Gary Gregory <[hidden email]
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=0>>
> a
> > > >>>> écrit :
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Arnaud,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the update.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not update the Log4j 2 dep from 2.4 to 2.5?
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Arnaud Héritier <[hidden
> > > email]
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=1>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gary,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fixed this in the branch :
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/maven/commits/slf4j-log4j2.4
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The fix is in
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
> maven-embedder/src/main/resources/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
> https://github.com/apache/maven/commit/8cddea291c279130d437bcdf3337f16296558530
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> )
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is the update I did after my old blog post :
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.aheritier.net/united-colors-of-maven/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BR
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Gary Gregory <[hidden
> > > email]
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=2>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy Holidays.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can the next version of Maven be rid of this warning:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] The SLF4J binding actually used is not
> supported by
> > > >>>>>> Maven:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.logging.slf4j.Log4jLoggerFactory
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] Maven supported bindings are:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [WARN] (from
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
> jar:file:/E:/Java/apache-maven-3.3.9/bin/../lib/maven-embedder-3.3.9.jar!/META-INF/maven/slf4j-configuration.properties)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - ch.qos.logback.classic.LoggerContext
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.slf4j.helpers.Log4jLoggerFactory
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - org.slf4j.impl.SimpleLoggerFactory
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a step I am missing to use Log4j 2 cleanly?
> My
> > > steps
> > > >>>>>> are
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > https://garygregory.wordpress.com/2015/03/23/watch-maven-in-color/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: [hidden email]
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=3>
> > > >>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> | [hidden
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> email] <http://
> > > /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=4>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <
> > > >>>>>> http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action <
> http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Twitter/Skype : aheritier
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: [hidden email]
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=5>
> > > >>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> | [hidden
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> email] <http://
> > > /user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5857870&i=6>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <javascript:;>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <
> > > >>>> http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action <
> http://www.manning.com/templier/>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Arnaud Héritier
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://aheritier.net
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
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> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Jason
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> > > >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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> > > >>>>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > > >>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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> > > >>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >>>>>> Jason
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >>>>>> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > > >>>>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > > >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
> > > >>>> http://twitter.com/takari_io
> > > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > >>>>
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> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >>
> > > >> Jason
> > > >>
> > > >> ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > >> Jason van Zyl
> > > >> Founder, Takari and Apache Maven
> > > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl <http://twitter.com/jvanzyl>
> > > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io <http://twitter.com/takari_io>
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> > > Jason
> > >
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> > > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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