> On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No, I don’t that useful. If it’s an extensions then it can be activated >> using the .mvn/extensions.xml and downloaded on demand. I think for Maven >> 4.x we just bite the bullet and put Logback in the distribution. Igor and I >> have done most of the work in the last while and have implementations for >> Logback, and when I drop the 4.x changes I will have done a ton of work and >> I’d just like to end the discussion and put Logback in 4.x. >> >> If we disagree then let’s resolve never to discuss this again because it’s >> a waste of time. We’ll just leave the simple implementation in there as >> it’s probably fine for 99% of people. What Igor suggests I think is a fine >> compromise. The optional extensions can be built in the main tree so that >> we know they work, but not distributed by default. If someone wants to use >> them they can enable them using the .mvn/extensions.xml mechanism. I can >> live with optional extensions in the tree, but I’ll never agree to the >> default implementation being Log4J2. >> > > OK I'll bite:
I won’t. > > - "I’ll never agree to the default implementation being Log4J2." > - "I’m vehemently opposed to integrating Log4J2." > > Oh, then the irony of the signature: > > "You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. > No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. > They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically > dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of > dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or > goals are in doubt. > > -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" > > So... why the vehemence? Why "never"? > > Gary > Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Takari and Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl http://twitter.com/takari_io --------------------------------------------------------- Three people can keep a secret provided two of them are dead. -- Benjamin Franklin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
