On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 4:12 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 7:26 AM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> No, I don’t that useful. If it’s an extensions then it can be activated > >> using the .mvn/extensions.xml and downloaded on demand. I think for > Maven > >> 4.x we just bite the bullet and put Logback in the distribution. Igor > and I > >> have done most of the work in the last while and have implementations > for > >> Logback, and when I drop the 4.x changes I will have done a ton of work > and > >> I’d just like to end the discussion and put Logback in 4.x. > >> > >> If we disagree then let’s resolve never to discuss this again because > it’s > >> a waste of time. We’ll just leave the simple implementation in there as > >> it’s probably fine for 99% of people. What Igor suggests I think is a > fine > >> compromise. The optional extensions can be built in the main tree so > that > >> we know they work, but not distributed by default. If someone wants to > use > >> them they can enable them using the .mvn/extensions.xml mechanism. I can > >> live with optional extensions in the tree, but I’ll never agree to the > >> default implementation being Log4J2. > >> > > > > OK I'll bite: > > I won’t. > > > > > - "I’ll never agree to the default implementation being Log4J2." > > - "I’m vehemently opposed to integrating Log4J2." > > > > Oh, then the irony of the signature: > > > > "You are never dedicated to something you have complete confidence in. > > No one is fanatically shouting that the sun is going to rise tomorrow. > > They know it is going to rise tomorrow. When people are fanatically > > dedicated to political or religious faiths or any other kind of > > dogmas or goals, it's always because these dogmas or > > goals are in doubt. > > > > -- Robert Pirzig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" > > > > So... why the vehemence? Why "never"? > > > > Gary > > > > Thanks, > > Jason > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Jason van Zyl > Founder, Takari and Apache Maven > http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > http://twitter.com/takari_io > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Three people can keep a secret provided two of them are dead. > That, preceded by the succinct "I won’t." and "Thanks", the irony is killing me! Thanks for the laughs ;-) Gary > > -- Benjamin Franklin > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > -- E-Mail: [email protected] | [email protected] Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
