Why not 4.0.0? I think this must come in tandem with Packaging zip finally.

> I don't see any compelling reason to add zips to the classpath now.
> 
> We should have maybe done it from the start, but I don't see that we can do
> it now before 5.0.0
> 
> (And I am not even seeing a compelling reason to add it then... just it
> won't be as problematic)
> 
> On Wed 8 Feb 2017 at 20:11, Michael Osipov <micha...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> > Am 2017-02-07 um 10:07 schrieb Jörg Schaible:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > there's currently a discussion in JIRA regarding MNG-5576 (Zips on
> > classpth)
> > > and Michael Osipov suggested to bring the discussion to the dev list.
> > > Actually this already happened once last August:
> > >
> > > Paul Benedict wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would like to reopen MNG-5567 because I find the solution incomplete.
> > As
> > >> the ticket stands today, any "zip" listed as a dependency will get put
> > on
> > >> the classpath. The rationale behind that decision was:
> > >>
> > >> (a) the classpath supports "zip" extensions
> > >> (b) there is apparently no harm in automatically putting everything
> > "zip"
> > >> on the classpath
> > >> (c) there is no apparent reason to opt-out
> > >>
> > >> I have an issue with (b) and (c). Here's why:
> > >>
> > >> First, it violates the principle that developers should control what
> > goes
> > >> on the classpath. I really can't believe Maven would wrestle this
> > control
> > >> away. The assumption that every "zip" is meant to be on the classpath is
> > >> erroneous. This is not the case and Maven shouldn't automatically assume
> > >> it. Even if Maven was to assume it, the lack of opt-in behavior gives no
> > >> escape hatch.
> > >>
> > >> Second, for projects that I personally deal with, these "zip" artifacts
> > >> are nothing but shared front-end web resources. These are not meant to
> > on
> > >> the class path. The dependencies are there so other goals can unpack
> > them
> > >> during the build and place them in the context root.
> > >>
> > >> Third, it's possible a "zip" non-classpath resource could conflict with
> > a
> > >> same named resource in the classpath. I haven't had to be concerned with
> > >> this (yet), but I will be on the lookout if MNG-5567 doesn't change.
> > >
> > > my concern is also (b), because it is today quite common to use the
> > assembly
> > > plugin to create attached artficats with additional resources required
> > later
> > > elsewhere (SQL scripts, WSDLs and their schema files, start scripts,
> > ...).
> > > None of this stuff is meant to be on classpath.
> > >
> > > On top, all these artifacts will suddenly inject transitive dependencies
> > > whereever they are referenced - just by using a new Maven version. We'll
> > > face bloated WARs and EARs with stuff not belonging there for *existing*
> > > projects. IMHO MNG-4467 has much more unwanted side-effects in the curent
> > > ecosystem compared to the support of one or two projects that deliver
> > their
> > > Java archives as ZIP files.
> >
> > Seems like there no opinion on that. What now?
> >
> >
> >
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