Hello, I agree with Tamás and Maarten.
I'm sure I can convince people around me to start using and testing Maven 4 (locally) when it's in alpha, but they would be reluctant if it's a SNAPSHOT. Cheers, Martin Op wo 12 okt. 2022 om 10:01 schreef Tamás Cservenák <[email protected]>: > Howdy, > > +1 for release alpha > -1 (not vote but opinion) for snapshots in builds -- but I could live with > it > > T > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2022 at 9:57 AM Maarten Mulders <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > TL;DR: +1 for releasing an "4.0.0-alpha-1". > > > > > > I think that an "alpha-1" could also be of value for end users. They > > might want to experiment with new features, see if they work on their > > project. > > > > Nowadays, I mostly hear people being reluctant to download a SNAPSHOT > > from a Jenkins machine. Offering an "alpha-1" - of course, with all the > > smallprint saying it may ruin your coffee and what not - will give them > > something to test. And if they test, they can report bugs, so we can > > stabilise Maven further. > > > > We know, they know, it's not stable, things may break - but it's better > > than postponing Maven 4 and only saying "we will release it when it's > > ready". Because if nobody tests it in the wild, how do we know it's > ready? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Maarten > > > > On 11/10/2022 20:13, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote: > > > Hi Guillaume, > > > > > > Nothing against (even the opposite) but do we have a clear status of > what > > > makes it an alpha? > > > A kind of roadmap to final? > > > The rational behind this question is that without it, it will likely > look > > > like a SNAPSHOT and will not be tested much but if it is considered > alpha > > > cause not well tested but "final" in the spirit it will get more > traction > > > IMHO. > > > > > > Romain Manni-Bucau > > > @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> | Blog > > > <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog > > > <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github < > > https://github.com/rmannibucau> | > > > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> | Book > > > < > > > https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance > > > > > > > > > > > > Le mar. 11 oct. 2022 à 18:19, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> a > > écrit : > > > > > >> I've splitted #819, extracted > https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/820 > > >> from > > >> it and merged that part, so that's fine with me for a first alpha. > > >> > > >> Le lun. 10 oct. 2022 à 22:32, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> a > > écrit > > >> : > > >> > > >>> The master branch contains a lot of things and has not been released > > for > > >> a > > >>> long time. With the new addition of the v4 api, I think it would be > > good > > >> to > > >>> get something out of the door to gather some feedback from users and > > also > > >>> allow migrating some components and plugins to the new API. > > >>> > > >>> So unless there's an objection, I'd like to start a release process > > later > > >>> this week after [1] and [2] are merged. > > >>> > > >>> Thoughts ? > > >>> > > >>> Cheers, > > >>> Guillaume Nodet > > >>> > > >>> [1] https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/806 > > >>> [2] https://github.com/apache/maven/pull/819 > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> ------------------------ > > >> Guillaume Nodet > > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > >
