Hi Elliotte,

On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 at 19:51, Elliotte Rusty Harold <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't believe anyone reads most of these messages most of the time.
> In fact, I'd venture that well more than 99% of them are never read by
> anyone.

Some people started reading these after Log4Shell. On StackOverflow
questions like "Why is Maven downloading ...?"[1]

If I might add my 2 cents, the right amount of logging should:

1. allow people with 56 Kbps connections to understand why the build
is taking ages,
2. inform the other users (that set -ntp), what does Maven download and why.

The second case could have logs like:

Downloading plugin dependencies:
org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-compiler-plugin:3.11.0,
org.apache.maven.shared:maven.shared.utils:3.3.4, ...
Downloading compile dependencies: org.apache.logging.log4j:log4j-api:2.20.0, ...

Not sure if this should be at INFO or DEBUG level: during a CI build
this info is important to understand whether a fresh snapshot was
downloaded from a remote repo or the one installed locally (e.g. in
the previous step) is being used.

Piotr

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/q/70473780/11748454

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