On 30/08/2006, at 8:51 PM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:

Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
Brett Porter wrote:
-1

(snapshots are fine).

The ability to publish half-baked, undocumented releases (which is what they are if they can't garner votes to get out of the sandbox) allows us to get lazy meaning full releases don't arrive and we've suffered enough for it already.
Ok, but what's the upgrade path, in your opinion?

We have developed some pretty clear documentation and testing standards that plugins should conform to before graduating the sandbox.


And, following up my own question: In particular, considering the *extremely* nasty release policy, which the Maven project does have for plugins?

Examples:

- maven-jar-plugin hasn't seen a release in eight months, although the
  plugin is extremely important and has had very nasty bugs

Obviously we need a balance, and I was referring to a harder stance on pre-release sandbox plugins rather than ongoing support of already released plugins. We should have had an earlier release of the jar plugin, yes.

Plugins should more often be getting out small point releases rather than biting off large sets of changes.


- maven-changes-plugin hasn't seen a release for UI don't know how
  long, although the plugin is required for migrating most Maven 1
  projects

Maybe I'm listening to the wrong places, but I haven't heard a high demand for this one. Some people have found it important and done some work on it recently, which is great.

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