On 06/06/2007, at 2:06 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:

Is this different/related to the design paper you were working on?

As I've said before, I'm interested in collaborating on this, and would like to see it posted somewhere.


No, he started on this prior to what I started. I have the underlying logical mechanism. No final API.

Maybe we're getting our wires crossed here, but I thought in both cases you were currently working on something. I can understand not getting heavy into implementation until we have our process nailed - but if there is anything in progress I'd like to see it.


Before I'm willing to talk about anything related to 2.1 this is my list:

- Apply as many patches as possible (6 left to look at)
- Clean up JIRA
  - Flush out the duplicates
  - Close what issues have been dealt with
  - Delete the issues with incomprehensible explanations
- I think if 10 of us when in there for a day we could reduce what cruft there is and discuss how to manage the great information that's in there which we generally don't look at
- Release 2.0.7
- Document making patches so nothing will be accepted without at least working example project, with a preference for unit tests and integration projects
  - Make an archetype for test cases
  - Make an archetype for ITs
  - Document running the ITs
- Dealing with the IT issues I've listed previously
- Separate the design documents from the Taxonomy
- Taxonomy
  - The start being the actual home page of the Maven space
  - Align JIRA to Taxonomy
  - Align Wiki to Taxonomy

Yep, this is all goodness. I've always seen JIRA, testing requirements and the organisation of design documents as the important things before 'getting started' on 2.1 in earnest.

I would like to champion the re-initiation of the development process we started some time back. I think we need to have a point where we say "from this time on, only a certain level of quality is acceptable" - and be prepared to reject changes that don't come with tests, etc. I think it ties in to what you're doing, so I'll get stuck into that document again.

The only caution I'd urge is that we don't over-reach in these things and have them fail. I'd rather draw a line, get started, and gradually improve (the taxonomy springs to mind here). I think we're on the right track at present.

Until these things are done we'll continue moving along slower then we could be. I've managed to get releases out in a reasonable time frame and it will only get better by finishing these items first and I think we need to pull together and deal with these first before any meaningful discussion can ensue.

Should we have these listed as tasks that can be assigned to people?

- Brett



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