You're right, we have to activate them in the release process.
CI will launch them automatically every 4 hours.
IT's are often very long.
The problem we have actually (see my other thread) is that we develop too
many ITs and not enough UTs.
That's why I would prefer to have a good code coverage with UTs and not rely
everytime on ITs.

I asked your opinion about ITs activation on the other thread. We can
transform it in a vote.

Arnaud

On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Olivier Lamy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> Agree with Vincent, they must be activated by default (for me it tests
> are similar to a junit tests).
> And as we have documented in the surefire mojo : "skip ... Its use is
> NOT RECOMMENDED .."
>
> By the way I can add some extra parameters during my build.
>
> But I can forget and maybe commit something which failed and deploy a
> snapshot which failed too. (you know like me the story about the
> failure with plexus-component-api which break with mvn and not with
> junit tests).
>
> If we desactivate this, IMHO  running its must be at least activated
> in the release profile.
>
> --
> Olivier
>
> 2008/8/7 Vincent Siveton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 2008/8/7 Benjamin Bentmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Hi Vincent,
> >>
> >>> Removing this activation check, ITs will never be been called by
> >>> default. Is it really the wanted behaviour?
> >>> IMHO I think unit testing implies IT testing. Does I missed something?
> >>
> >> Well, it appears to be a personal taste: I am just like you in favor of
> >> running tests (whatever kind) by default but the consensus while talking
> on
> >> IRC (at least as I sensed it, see the logs) was to keep them out of
> everyday
> >> builds and have them run only on demand by CI.
> >
> > CI did not develop or make release for us ;) So, I think we need to be
> > developer oriented and not CI oriented.
> > So, IMHO ITs are part of the build and should be activated by default
> > when maven.test.skip is true or at least, with dev user property in
> > the settings like skipTests.
> >
> > Other thoughts?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Benjamin
> >>
> >>
> >> [0] http://dev.rectang.com/logs/codehaus/%23maven/
> >>
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